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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2021, 11:50:05 pm »
Sadly, It's as I had thought:
https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/yamaha-r7-specs-and-features

Kyk, hy's wel mooi, maar met net 75hp, is dit n klein tottie wat alleen maar stink soos n grote

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2021, 05:51:48 am »
Letís be honest , how many people can ride a modern 1000 to its potential on the roads , most do not have the skill , road conditions mostly donít allow it , something like this is probably a more controllable and safer bike if the riders can get over their egoís .
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2021, 06:24:57 am »
I can't help but think that some of the most obvious points are being missed.

- The 600cc supersport class has been waning for long time. 1000cc bikes are now lurking around the 300k mark. Who's going to pay close to that for the smaller class? Not many as the market has illustrated.
- For the same reasons that KTM are moving away from v-twins, manufacturers are trying to find ways to keep bikes affordable. With all the additional cost of rider AIDS (traction control, abs, tilt control, wheelie control, quick shifters etc), the costs have to be reigned in somewhere else to keep the bikes affordable and still make a profit.
- The CP2 engine and mid-capacity twins are actually way better on the road compared to a the older supersports that develop power north of 10000rpm.
- The adv segment has been the fastest growing segment for years.....for logical reasons. They suite everyday use and road use from traffic to touring 600 times better than a supersport 600.

Personally, I think supersports have one place and only one place, a race track.

The intro of the R7 and Aprillia RS660 are welcome and moto journo's are raving about the RS660.

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2021, 07:38:43 am »
This will be a new segment with no comparison, like the T700?
The RS660 makes 99 hp and the 765 RS makes 125hp.
Yes, I know the Z1 900 made 80 odd horsepower, but that was 1972.
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2021, 08:33:55 am »
What a beautiful machine!
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2021, 11:24:07 am »
hy's wel mooi, maar met net 75hp, is dit n klein tottie wat alleen maar stink soos n grote

Kleurvolle (geurvolle?) taal, effens kras, maar wel n oor-oorduidelike omskrywing!

Die wail van n 600/4 wat sy conrods amper gooi laat n man moerlekker kry, en met n heelwat korter gearing bly jy by die 1000's op kort bane as jy bedrewe raak met die ratte, maar inni draaie score jy omdat die ding ligter is. Ook, as jy al klaar op jou oor le dan is n foutjie nie so gevaarlik soos met n 1000 nie, jou bande kan gewoonlik meer hanteer as wat die enjin lewer.
Dit maak die SS klas nie intimiderend nie en relatief veilig, dit terwyl die SB's 'teveel' vir meeste ouens is - kom nou, wie maak n 1000 rerig oop op n baan?
Nie ek nie, ek's bang vir die goed - en ek weet, alli elektronika hou dit teenwoordig bikie binne perke.... maar wie ry dan eintlik, ek of die CPU?
Ek het nie n 1000 nodig om te 'wys' nie, ek het klaar n groot tot  :P

Nou kom daar n 700-twin vir die baan, met dus n heelwat hoer koppel om jou agterband onder jou gat uit te trek.
As daai ding nie fancy rekenaarfunksies het nie sal manne die kittylitter gaan besoek, HKGK, selfs met sy baiebaiebeskeie kraglewering!
My beskeie mening is dat die fiets nie n groot fanbase sal maak nie, laat staan n resurrection van die klas sal teweeg bring.

Ou Haga jong, ek sal jou altyd onthou as jy jou ellemboe sleep oppi teer, magtig dit was n pragtige vertoning!
Never to be repeated, en hierdie fietsie beter 'Tam7' gedoop gaan word  :thumleft:
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2021, 11:48:29 am »
I was behind a KTM890 duke type bike on the track the other day and in the correct hands, that thing hustles. I've decided to try smaller on the track. Going from Ducati 1098 to Triumph 675. It's going to be a learning experience me thinks....I'm really looking forward to it.

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2021, 12:03:12 pm »
I was behind a KTM890 duke type bike on the track the other day and in the correct hands .....

Lol blauth, that's FIFTY percent up on power than the Tam7!  :P

But yeah, a 'handy' rider can put things in perspective, or humuliate depending on one's character  :o
I remember I was going 'lekker' on Swartkops, and next a chap on a Suzi TL1000 (the one with the notoriously bad rotary rear shock/damper!) bumbled past on the inside without any obvious ado, and smoothly disappeared into the distance!  :lol8:
Spoke to the guy later, a young relaxed dude having limited means and loving tracks, so he just made do with what he had.
And make do he did - some guys have it, and I concluded I did not.
Mind, we both had our fun, the only thing that counts!  :thumleft:
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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2021, 03:56:52 pm »
Die manne wat so tekere gaan oor die min krag van die R7 is wat ons in bike terme na verwys as "straightliners".

Hulle het die groot krag nodig om op die straights inte haal wat hulle in die draaie verloor. :imaposer:

Die 790 Duke, n vol 800cc fiets, haal 100kmh in 3.3 sekondes.

Die MT-07, n fiets van 689cc, haal 100kmh in 3.7 sekondes.

Skryf die verskil af aan 110cc verskil. :thumleft: :thumleft:

 

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2021, 07:14:18 pm »
Vertel dit vir die TAMaha ouens wanneer Jack Miller hul op die back straight laat lyk of hul vir parking soek.

0-100 beteken minder as 100-200

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2021, 07:21:05 pm »
Vertel dit vir die TAMaha ouens wanneer Jack Miller hul op die back straight laat lyk of hul vir parking soek.

0-100 beteken minder as 100-200

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Maar daai ouens is ongelukkig nie op R7's nie. :deal:

Perhaps you should use your wonder KTM's in this MotoGP example? :biggrin: They're still racing from last Sunday...... :snorting:
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2021, 08:11:34 pm »
I was behind a KTM890 duke type bike on the track the other day and in the correct hands, that thing hustles. I've decided to try smaller on the track. Going from Ducati 1098 to Triumph 675. It's going to be a learning experience me thinks....I'm really looking forward to it.
The 675 has always been an amazing bike , much more midrange than the 600s make it a lot easier to ride , and the sound is just to die for
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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2021, 08:35:00 pm »
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2021, 07:17:14 am »
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2021, 07:20:32 am »
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2021, 07:38:44 am »
Die R7 is gerig op die gedeelte van die  3/4 ltr mark wat kan ry!
Die manne wat nie kan ry in n draai, koop dan eerder n rs660, duke of triumph 765.

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 :pot:   :imaposer:    The red flag, she no working.....  >:D

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2021, 11:34:13 pm »
So it doesn't matter what gear you're in........ that's not a trackday bike then?

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2021, 03:00:00 pm »
Burp, I thought that was a pretty shitty review actually. The one from Cyclenews was much better and you could see the guy was way more experienced and spoke more sense.

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2021, 04:21:11 pm »
In 1969 Yamaha rewrote the books regarding "dualsport" machines with their DT-1.

In 1975 Yamaha rewrote the books regarding "thumpers"with their XT500.

In 1998 Yamaha rewrote the rule books regarding 4stroke offroad competition bikes with their YZ400F.

All these great andinnovative moments came along when a forward thinking company saw that things cannot stay the way they are.

Which brings us to the 2021 R7 Yamaha, a new direction for sportbikes.

Mark my words, Yamaha is being trendsetting again.
 

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Re: Tam7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2021, 05:42:06 pm »
Yamaha is being trendsetting again.

Not with the Tam7 Dan, wishful thinking...... like the below?


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