Pan America - the best Harley by far?

[Edgar]

  the bike's headlight does look like Bender

[RobC]

good info

https://advrider.com/harley-davidsons-pan-america-1250-breaks-cover/

The specs look surprisingly good, and any proper alternative in any big segment is a good thing. I also think people love to judge based on nothing and that a lot of them was wrong, so I like it

Spoke tubeless wheels also available...

[RobC]

the bike's headlight does look like Bender

I think that wide snout makes for less buffeting, it also makes the screen simpler.

[big oil]

Have I lost too many brain cells to opine; I would have preferred a frontal design with some old fashioned round l.e.d. headlamps, perhaps similar to the BMW GS/GSA, asymmetrical arrangement of the early to mid-2000's, except symmetrical, considering the bike is manufactured by a 118 year old company known for selling a good number of cruisers with round headlamps? 

The frontal design makes me think 'Transformers', when it could easily said Softail ridden by Swarzenegger in 'Terminator'. 

[RobC]

Have I lost too many brain cells to opine; I would have preferred a frontal design with some old fashioned round l.e.d. headlamps, perhaps similar to the BMW GS/GSA, asymmetrical arrangement of the early to mid-2000's, except symmetrical, considering the bike is manufactured by a 118 year old company known for selling a good number of cruisers with round headlamps? 

The frontal design makes me think 'Transformers', when it could easily said Softail ridden by Swarzenegger in 'Terminator'.

In any case this bike is out of my league unless I win the Lotto... I would buy one just cos I can then.

[JacoM]

I see the dust coming...
A herd of Harley riders on the R355, occupying most of the road through the Tankwa. Dust only to be surpassed by the the AfricaBurn trek. All in place, Captain, vice-capt, under vice-captain, etc. etc. Everybody else  in the organised formation completely covered with dust biggrin:
Tankwa Padstal completely taken over by the herd...drinking beer and cleaning airfilters.

[big oil]

Have I lost too many brain cells to opine; I would have preferred a frontal design with some old fashioned round l.e.d. headlamps, perhaps similar to the BMW GS/GSA, asymmetrical arrangement of the early to mid-2000's, except symmetrical, considering the bike is manufactured by a 118 year old company known for selling a good number of cruisers with round headlamps? 

The frontal design makes me think 'Transformers', when it could easily said Softail ridden by Swarzenegger in 'Terminator'.

In any case this bike is out of my league unless I win the Lotto... I would buy one just cos I can then.

I could see myself adding one to the stable in the future when it's depreciated in value heavily and any first model year bugs are rectified,

[IceCreamMan]

Have I lost too many brain cells to opine; I would have preferred a frontal design with some old fashioned round l.e.d. headlamps, perhaps similar to the BMW GS/GSA, asymmetrical arrangement of the early to mid-2000's, except symmetrical, considering the bike is manufactured by a 118 year old company known for selling a good number of cruisers with round headlamps? 

The frontal design makes me think 'Transformers', when it could easily said Softail ridden by Swarzenegger in 'Terminator'.

In any case this bike is out of my league unless I win the Lotto... I would buy one just cos I can then.

I could see myself adding one to the stable in the future when it's depreciated in value heavily and any first model year bugs are rectified,

Me too, i would be quite happy with one.

Pricing here is 15 000 pounds for the wire wheel model.  After a model or 2 and bugs ironed out i would be happy to buy a seond hand one for aroudn 10.

[XRRX]

I see the dust coming...
A herd of Harley riders on the R355, occupying most of the road through the Tankwa. Dust only to be surpassed by the the AfricaBurn trek. All in place, Captain, vice-capt, under vice-captain, etc. etc. Everybody else  in the organised formation completely covered with dust biggrin:
Tankwa Padstal completely taken over by the herd...drinking beer and cleaning airfilters.

[RobC]

I see the dust coming...
A herd of Harley riders on the R355, occupying most of the road through the Tankwa. Dust only to be surpassed by the the AfricaBurn trek. All in place, Captain, vice-capt, under vice-captain, etc. etc. Everybody else  in the organised formation completely covered with dust biggrin:
Tankwa Padstal completely taken over by the herd...drinking beer and cleaning airfilters.

[big oil]

Have I lost too many brain cells to opine; I would have preferred a frontal design with some old fashioned round l.e.d. headlamps, perhaps similar to the BMW GS/GSA, asymmetrical arrangement of the early to mid-2000's, except symmetrical, considering the bike is manufactured by a 118 year old company known for selling a good number of cruisers with round headlamps? 

The frontal design makes me think 'Transformers', when it could easily said Softail ridden by Swarzenegger in 'Terminator'.

In any case this bike is out of my league unless I win the Lotto... I would buy one just cos I can then.

I could see myself adding one to the stable in the future when it's depreciated in value heavily and any first model year bugs are rectified,

Me too, i would be quite happy with one.

Pricing here is 15 000 pounds for the wire wheel model.  After a model or 2 and bugs ironed out i would be happy to buy a seond hand one for aroudn 10.

Exactly. 

Appears the Special model is $19,995 on this side of da pond.

[big oil]

I just watched the video again. 

The statement, "the Pan America is the first adventure touring motorbike made in the USA", seems like a kick in Erik Buell's balls.

I could be wrong, but I thought the Buell Ulysses was made in the USA?  Riders seemed to love the character the bike had.

[IceCreamMan]

I just watched the video again. 

The statement, "the Pan America is the first adventure touring motorbike made in the USA", seems like a kick in Erik Buell's balls.

I could be wrong, but I thought the Buell Ulysses was made in the USA?  Riders seemed to love the character the bike had.

I thought the same thing ...

i guess they just saying the ullyses was not really meant for adventure off road...

[big oil]

I just watched the video again. 

The statement, "the Pan America is the first adventure touring motorbike made in the USA", seems like a kick in Erik Buell's balls.

I could be wrong, but I thought the Buell Ulysses was made in the USA?  Riders seemed to love the character the bike had.

I thought the same thing ...

i guess they just saying the ullyses was not really meant for adventure off road...

Could be. 

[RobC]

Buell was always regarded as a modifier of Harleys by Harley, never a full blown manufacturer.

Good read...
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/before-the-pan-america-the-buell-ulysses-offered-harley-adventures/

[sidetrack]

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