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Back to Honda - (This time with a CRF450L)
« on: April 27, 2021, 06:40:16 pm »
After a short hiatus on the other "H" brand I collected this on Friday from the Tygerberg Honda team  :ricky:



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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2021, 07:07:55 pm »
After a short hiatus on the other "H" brand I collected this on Friday from the Tygerberg Honda team  :ricky:

Congrats JT.  Now tell us what it is.  :sip:
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2021, 08:42:27 am »
Congrats do you still have the 690 ?
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2021, 10:15:00 am »
Thanks guys.

No, I sold the 701 in Feb
 

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2021, 10:16:03 am »
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2021, 10:25:24 am »
CRF 300L?
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2021, 10:50:59 am »
Come on TEEEE, done leave us hanging.

Whatcha get?.. it does look like the 300L
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2021, 11:44:05 am »
I 1st rode this bike back when it launched in Feb 2019, and I so wanted to like it, so wanted it to work, but the performance was just not there, I just couldn't understand how Honda had made this new 450 with the same power as my 250 Rally  ??? , the way the power was delivered was different and the bike had many plus points, but also just a few too many negatives - such as the 8l fuel tank.  So I returned after the demo ride somewhat disappointed, handed back the keys and put it out of my mind.

At the time I wrote this, somewhere here:
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Ok I rode it, and in summary forget the spec sheet and go ride it. I have 24k km on the CRF250Rally so I feel I am qualified to make a comparison. Both have around 24hp so they should be similar right? Nope the 450 has toque that I wish was available in the 250, it pulls stronger everywhere right to the top end of about 125-130 kph (and my 250 is not stock, taller gearing, fmf, airbox mods so it is livelier than the stock one). It's lighter and more nimble, more fun to throw around and easier to keep on track. The suspension actually works. The seat is a plank, the stock tyres are average, but the same that come on the 250 so changing those should make a huge difference. On the highway the 450 is not as planted as the 250 and feels a little twitchy. The 450 will crash better. The 450 is quiet, in a pleasing kind of way.  Yes it could have more power, but is is still quick, and I am sure in time there will be options to free a couple more ponies.

I eventually sold the Rally after putting about 30k km on it in 2 years of ownership, Honda certainly know how to make solid little bikes, the CRF250/300 models should give many years of outstanding service provided they are shown a little love every now and again.

Experience has taught me, I don't enjoy big (200kg+) twins off-road, they are all incredible machines, but I am no Tarres or Birch and they are not for me. So my attention turned to the 500/501-690/701 range and for various reasons I ended up with a "lightly" used 2019 701 Enduro.  (fun fact, it's the tallest 701 they ever made and the 1st to replace the 4CS forks with the Xplor48) I owned that for just over a year for much of which a small virus managed to interfere with our riding plans, but that aside I did manage to put about 9k km on the clock.  I kitted it a little, and replaced the clutch slave seal as preventative maintenance. Incredible machine, hated the suspension and wrestled with the idea of spending almost half the value of the bike to make it work  :-\  (there are cheaper options, but I know how it goes, you start cheap and then more often than not end up back at the expensive choice). 

Apart from sheer enjoyment of nature, freedom and wide open spaces riding alone in remote places, at times one thinks, if this thing stops, can I get it going again.  Despite being fairly technical and with the KTM/Husq reputation I often doubted the answer would be yes.  (I don't want to start a brand bashing thread, these engines are amazing, they are highly tuned and highly strung and there are many documented cases of fuel pump failures, water pump failures, excessive oil consumption, and even total engine failures).

Fast forward to Jan this year, and I see an ad somewhere saying that the 450L was now available with an uprated ECU.  I contacted Jonathan at Tygerberg and confirmed it was in fact the case and they had a demo available, and that is how I found myself, bright and early the following Saturday morning collecting the bike for a 2nd test ride.

After the experience I wrote this here:
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Rode it again, this time with the US intake and ecu - a much better experience.

And this over on Instagram:
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Second chances - now this is how Honda intended this bike to perform #gorideit #hondacrf450l - thanks to Johann Botha and the team from #hondatygerberg for the opportunity.

Let's just say the bike is transformed and you can't really compare.

And so I started reading the "HONDA CRF450L MEGA THREAD" over on AdvRider which is now 777 pages or 15,535 posts long :o - A wealth of information on this little machine, and in comparison to the "Husqvarna 701 Super Moto and Enduro!" thread (1893 pages) on the same forum is not filled with questions on reliability and return trips to the dealer.

Early Feb and Hardy contacted me to see if I could drum up some interest in a small pre-launch demo of the 300L, an event which allowed me to ride that, the 701 and the 450L back-to-back.  This was to be my 3rd experience on the 450l and this time on the MTB tracks and trails of Kaleo Guest Farm, familiar ground for previous Quest Bootcamp participants. It's was this ride that made up my mind to sell the 701 and order a 450 from Tygerberg.

The Husqvarna sold quickly for pretty much what I paid for it and an order was placed with Jonathan, anyway enough ramblings for now - I finally collected it on Monday  :ricky:

To be continued...
 
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2021, 11:50:41 am »
Safe travels on it Teebag!! :thumleft: :drif: :drif:
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2021, 11:51:28 am »
Damn, I was going to say a 450 when I looked closely at your first pic.  I could have won the free weekend in Port Nolloth if I'd had teh courage of my conviction to post here.

Very nice bike, be good to read some feedback as you get (s)miles on it.
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2021, 11:52:23 am »
When I buy mine shortly after retiring, 1st mod will be gold rims.  :peepwall: :lol8:  Black doesn't do it for me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2021, 12:34:47 pm »

Just a little jealous...there, I said it  :drif:
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2021, 01:21:03 pm »
Lekker bike if or when I sell my 450x this would replace it.
Many happy kilos.
A fuel bladder only costs R600 or so.
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2021, 01:45:29 pm »
Lekker bike if or when I sell my 450x this would replace it.
Many happy kilos.
A fuel bladder only costs R600 or so.
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...on the comment about fuel bladders: our 450L luggage racks will now come supplied with a mounting plate, to fit a Pioneer Plastics 5L fuel cell or Pioneer Plastics water cell.

We can debate the merits of fuel that far back, etc, just know that it is now possible to FIT extra fuel to the luggage rack, and we have done same with the 250L luggage rack, 250 Rally luggage rack, and have JUST done the same with the 300L luggage rack...

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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2021, 02:22:17 pm »
Sweet bike, enjoy!
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2021, 02:26:11 pm »
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2021, 02:58:12 pm »
Fantastic motorcycle  :thumleft:
 
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2021, 04:02:07 pm »
It's all your fault  :biggrin:
 

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2021, 04:05:00 pm »
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Re: Back to Honda
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2021, 04:05:28 pm »
Service intervals ? I'm of the opinion one can do 2000km easily and not worry too much about what is stated in the manual.
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