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« on: September 07, 2006, 01:38:42 pm »











 Hey guys , below is my story on the 1200 adv enjoy !!!
I will sort out more pics later today.

Every so often everyone gets spoilt. You might be a beggar and a generous person buys you a meal from Mc Donald?s. You might be a middle class person and get given a weekend a way for you and you family form you employer. Even rich guys get spoilt with new Learjets now and again.

Well a few months ago I received and invitation to attend a new bike launch from BMW. The invite stated that I would need to be available from Wednesday 6 am till Friday 15h00 AND need a valid passport. I gladly accepted and was instructed to arrive at Grand Central air port at 6 am. On arrival each person was handed a small backpack with a polar fleece jacket, T shirts, beanie and torch. And the eating began in true BMW style, full on breakfast platters with fresh coffee for the icy morning. We were briefed and boarded on very fancy jet plane which had a big fan on each wing and also jets some where and pre packed brunch boxes just in case you didn?t get enough on the ground. Two hours later we landed at Springbok air port and you guessed it, more food, snack platters, juice and coffee to feed the whole of the Northern Cape.
Lined up in perfect precision on the runway were about 15 new R 1200 GS Adventures.  After changing into our riding kit we were briefed and the fun began. We heeded out of springbok and rode north through Steinkopf and over the Orange river, into Namibia.
We completed the tar sections for the day and the dirt began, the roads are wide and in very good condition. A few hairy moments were experienced when the hard pack turns to river sand and you are flying along at 130 km/h!!! We arrived at the gate of the park where we were overnighting and yip more food. Platters of dry wors, dried fruit, cold drinks, chips etc. From there we had about 30 kms to do to the camp. But were no longer on easy roads , the track was now twin spoor farm road with a few sandy river crossings which made for entertaining viewing where some of us took a bit longer to cross. The 30 or so kilometres took us the good part of 2 hours and we arrived just be for sunset. The camp was on the fish river in the canyon and it was a 5 star affair. Built up from scratch for one night by the team from Felix Unite. The camp was complete with lamb on the spit, fully stocked bar and warm showers. After eating again we had a few drinks and retired to our separate tents for the night.

This is a glimpse of how BMW do things and it is a true reflection on their service and product. The new R 1200 GS Adventure is no exception, they have improved on the previous model, the 1150 with a long list.
The fuel tank which is the most prominent feature of this bike is now a huge 33 litres, they claim travelling at 95 km/h you can get close to 750 kilometres on one tank. They have also added a new wind shield for better protection. I was able to do 160km/h sitting up with my MX helmet on and my head didn?t look like a heavy metal fan at the Metallica concert. They have also added crash bars around the tank and motor. The seat is height adjustable so riding off road in the standing position was a breeze. The motor has seen a 15% increase in power and the new 6 speed gear box allows the big girl to travel at 160km/h with 2500 rpm in the bank before the red line.

The package weighs in at 223 kgs (dry) which is a bit on the heavy side. The lively 1170 cc flat twin motor is no slouch pushing out 74kW/100 bhp at 7,000 rpm, with torque peaking at 115 Nm at 5,500 rpm. The optional ABS breaks take the scare of grabbing a handful on the clamps away.
In the standing position at slow speeds the bike handles well , you can use the power on the back wheel to aid in tricky position and the immense power is great as the it can lug at low revs. We completed a river bed section of about 5 kilometres which comprised of very thick sand, rocks and sharp turns. Having spent a whole day getting used to the big girl, the technical bits were easily completed. However I think with a pillion and loaded panniers the challenge would be on, but then flying at 160 + is no problem.
The new model has the following advantages over the 1150;
   Substantial reduction in weight.
?   Significant increase in output (plus 15 per cent) and torque
   (plus 17 per cent).  
?   New six-speed manual gearbox.
?   New Evo-Para-lever with TDD spring struts.
?   New Tele-lever.
?   New instruments in digital technology with Info-Flat screen.
?   On-board single-wire network using CAN bus technology.
?   Electronic immobiliser.
Most of these bikes will spend 90% of their life?s on the tar or good gravel roads, the weight ads to the stability and the machine is extremely comfortable. JHB to CPT would be no problem with the advantage of being able to deviate via Poffadder!!
Retail Price:   R117 500 (incl VAT)
ABS & Heated Grips:   R8 400 (incl VAT)
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2006, 03:09:54 pm »
Nice report.

As Mich asked, would you buy one?
 

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2006, 03:10:18 pm »
Quote from: "OX"
The seat is height adjustable so riding off road in the standing position was a breeze.


Sounds like saying:"You have a nice face for radio work".  

Agreed, please tell us what you really think, the things that are not said by all the other journos who have to say nice things otherwise they don't get invited to the next one and the ads disappear from the mag.  Does it really work like that, or are you allowed to say bad things too?

Not that I have any problem with the bike, I have had a little ride on a new GSA, and it's great!  But I did not have the opportunity to spend any decent time on it.  How about a comparative test between the 1150 GSA and the 1200 GSA in your mag?
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2006, 03:19:11 pm »
Ox, is this the scaled down version of the report in Enduroworld. I enjoyed it,but i tend to agree with the forum members... what was not nice about the bike.. what will make you keep your katoom over the BM. I have never ridden one, and would like some-one's honest opinion about the bad and what to look out for, It helps a prospective rider to get more of a balanced idea when looking at the various bikes.

Bottom line is, we want to hear a journo's honest opinion, this is an open forum and your opinion is just that, your opinion.. be the first to let rip into the cons of the bike...

You can do it!!!! 8)
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2006, 03:38:08 pm »
Quote from: "Grootseun"
Ox, is this the scaled down version of the report in Enduroworld. I enjoyed it,but i tend to agree with the forum members... what was not nice about the bike.. what will make you keep your katoom over the BM. I have never ridden one, and would like some-one's honest opinion about the bad and what to look out for, It helps a prospective rider to get more of a balanced idea when looking at the various bikes.

Bottom line is, we want to hear a journo's honest opinion, this is an open forum and your opinion is just that, your opinion.. be the first to let rip into the cons of the bike...

You can do it!!!! 8)


He,s still a journo boys, albeit with possibly less BMW control.

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2006, 04:19:17 pm »
Look guys if you take a certain bike eg KLR 650 it has its limitations, ( as does the adv )  its a great all round bike to do short to medium distance trips on. What bike would you choose to do the following trip JHB , springbok, 1000kms into nam and back to jhb ??? My choice would be the bm . However is the trip was a day trip from Midrand to de Wildt with some tricky stuff , canal rd back to Midrand , I would dump the bm and hop on the KLR. BMW have a huge marketing budget so they can afford to take us journos where ever they want. (Ie terrain that the bike is best suited for )  So they did , they flew us to Springbok and we did almost 1500kms in 2 and half days on roads that were very wide and in good condition. So there the adv is king , you can do 160+ kms/h the whole day. But then we rode down into the fish river canyon. And most of the guys bailed off and we arrived late and almost in the dark. As the bike is not suited at ALL to technical terrain
I think you need to look at a bike and relate it to what riding you like to do , is it 50/50 easy dirt and tar mix or do you want to ride down to Lesotho all offroad and be able to go up Baboons pass ??? I have been riding off-road bikes for almost 5 years now and have just got my 640 katoosh which I love as I can ride most of the hairy stuff I do on the KTM300. I would hate to get to a tricky section and not be able to do because the bike wasn?t suited , I would rather compromise top end for technical ability.Did you know a guys by the name of Brian Bontekoning finished the Roof last year on KTM 640 ??
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2006, 04:59:13 pm »
Honest opinion, thanx Ox.

Two things need more info, one, what is the 1200 Adv like compared to the 1200GS and the 1150Adv. Someone needs to get all 3 and do a proper test.

Two, what is the skill level of the average journo out there, not yourself but the rest of the bunch?
I'm sure riding bikes all the time makes you better?  Not?
I suppose a lot of them just ride on the road and thats why the canyon was a problem.
 

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2006, 06:06:45 pm »
Greate reportS  :D  OX loved it.
That KTM dude was crazy but he could do it, Its (THIS IS MY OPINION AND ILL STAY WITH IT  :D )
You can do it with most bikes Ill do it with the TWIN but I will not do it in the time they want you to do it. Ill have more stops becuase ill be very Tired.
Ill need other tyres. But you can. I read a report of 3 people (THANKS LEO) doing Moz with 2 650GS'e and a 1200GS yes they struggled and the 1200 was heavy but at the end of the day they did it. People tend to place them selfs in the mind set of Giants , I like Alfie but Im not Alfie. :roll:


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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2006, 07:45:41 pm »
Hi OX

Sorry to hijack your ride report, but here's some comments my friend Christ Vorster regarding his new R1200GSA

Quote from: "Chris Vorster"
Hi all

Must tell you an interesting story re my 1200 adventure

Well this past weekend

Hein on KTM and me and Leonie on Adventure decided spur of the moment
to go to Sani top then through Lesotho via Oxbow.........I flew down
Friday loaded up girlfriend and bike waited for Hein and by 4pm we where
on the way-out past delmas to miss traffic at Galoolies and Heidelberg
toll rd,  long story short ,we covered the 350km to my farm near Kestel
by 7pm no hassles although the bights on my bike didn't impress me even
with the fog spots, going to have to do something there

Saturday left around 9am via Sterkfontien/ Bergville to Mooi River and
then gravel via Nottingham rd to Himeville then the fun started. We
filled up in Himeville to ensure enough fuel for the Lesotho crossing
and headed up the pass towards the border post, which as we all know,
closes at 4pm on the ZA side. about 1km from border and at 15h45 my bike starts making strange sounds and feels terrible bouncing all over and
wheel spinning no grip very weird feeling going over  the rocks and
bumps. There is oil pissing all over my swing arm and the rear shock is
blown at 8200km on my brand new adventure.........mmm.....what was that about the perfect bike to travel the world??????

Ok, weekends f#$ked!!!! So lets check out BMW on call ....just as well
im in SA otherwise this aint going to happen and just as well not in
Lusaka or Zim like last month

Long story short again BMW puts us up in Sani pass hotel 2 of us that
is, Hein gotta pay and Tommy Johns the bee em dealer in Durbs will pick
up bike on Sunday at hotel and Budget rent a car will send one from
Durban 1st thing Sunday

All things seem taken care of from On Call side and we come to terms
with the fact that this wont be a great biking weekend ,so what the hell
and off we go parting with the staff and a few other guests till the wee
hours

At around 8am we get a wake up call "morning sir, I regret to inform you
that the gentleman from budget has just rolled your rent a car 1km from
the hotel, but not to worry they will be sending you another ASAP"

Lucky for the driver only a bump on the head by 13h30 we left for home
in our newer Polo (I took photos of rolled Polo minus two wheels, lucky
bugger)

What a weekend of events

BMW sorted accommodation for Leonie and I, they sorted the Loan car and
they sorting my bike unfortunately don't think they expected the rear
shock to say hows ur father so 14days from now will have my new one and my bike is being sent to Bavaria

Hope this was a fluke or BMW will not hear the last from me. Certainly
was disappointing to have the bike break and those of u that know me I
do tend to ride in the dirt a bit, surely bike cant be so soft

Anyway Shaun from BMW h/o has been helpful to sort out my bike, and
besides Budgets scary driver the BMW on call team really helped get me
out of a fix

Personally I would have preferred to not have a broken bike

What the hell im getting my V Rod this weekend life can't be better

Cheers

Chris
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2006, 11:59:28 pm »
Thanks for your opinion.
 

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 08:14:10 am »
Hi Shark , I havent ridden the 1150 adv so cant comment. I was also on the press launch of the 1200gs , we went to sabi and environs. Personaly I prefer the 1200gs to the adv as its easier to throw around. The adv is basicaly a gs with a big tank. As fro teh journos , most of them were from on road mags so not very capable when it gets to the hairy stuff BUT put me on  R6 round kyalami with them and I'll be knitting a big jersey at the back of the pack , althogh I must say I did make it to the A group at superbike school before throwing my CBR600F4 down in a corner at Zwartkops.
Gideon , Have been up baboons ??? I will find some pics and post them.
Anyone can be like Alfie , its all in the mind !!!!!! ( but you need a big wallet !! )
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 08:58:39 am »
some pics of Baboons !!!

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2006, 10:08:59 am »
Respect man,

Would not like to try that on the Pig.

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