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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2021, 12:27:27 pm »
800GS of 990 of 660XT
En voeg hom by, dan het jy n ou bike om heeltyd aan te werk en n ander om die oor te draai.



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Kan ons asb ophou praat van n KLR as new tech? Netnou sien iemand buite SA die draad en dink nog minder van ons?
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2021, 12:57:17 pm »
My comment is nou nie noodwendig relevant tot die twee modelle wat hier bespreek word nie, maar relevant tot die topic van old tech vs new tech.

Ek ry op die oomblik met n 2003 Djebel met 53000km op die klok en geniet die bike verskriklik omdat dit so lig en maklik is om te gebruik. Kom ons noem dit old tech.
In die ander hoek eye ek n nuwe CRF300L iewers in die toekoms. Ook lekker lig maar meer modern met fuel injection ens. Kom ons noem dit new tech.

Nou wat my keuse moeilik maak is dit feit dat albei min of meer dieselfde krag maak. Volgens https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/, maak die Djebel 21,6kW @ 8500rpm en 24,5Nm @ 7000rpm terwyl die CRF300L 20,25kW @ 8500rpm maak  en 26,6Nm @ 6500rpm - nie n groot verskil nie. Die Suzuki is 118kg droog en die Honda omtrent 130kg (ek kry net wet weight vir die Honda so dis calculated).  Die Djebel het Showa suspensie voor en n 17liter tenk So much for progress...

Nou, sal die Honda'tjie so goed loop soos die Djebel na 18 jaar en 53000km sonder om enige olie te lek of te gebruik?

Ek diss nie die Honda nie, dis bloot n vraag?
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2021, 01:07:51 pm »
Nou, sal die Honda'tjie so goed loop soos die Djebel na 18 jaar en 53000km sonder om enige olie te lek of te gebruik?

Ek dink die Honda sal goeie diens gee nes jou Djebel het. :deal: :thumleft:
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2021, 01:35:22 pm »
My comment is nou nie noodwendig relevant tot die twee modelle wat hier bespreek word nie, maar relevant tot die topic van old tech vs new tech.

Ek ry op die oomblik met n 2003 Djebel met 53000km op die klok en geniet die bike verskriklik omdat dit so lig en maklik is om te gebruik. Kom ons noem dit old tech.
In die ander hoek eye ek n nuwe CRF300L iewers in die toekoms. Ook lekker lig maar meer modern met fuel injection ens. Kom ons noem dit new tech.

Nou wat my keuse moeilik maak is dit feit dat albei min of meer dieselfde krag maak. Volgens https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/, maak die Djebel 21,6kW @ 8500rpm en 24,5Nm @ 7000rpm terwyl die CRF300L 20,25kW @ 8500rpm maak  en 26,6Nm @ 6500rpm - nie n groot verskil nie. Die Suzuki is 118kg droog en die Honda omtrent 130kg (ek kry net wet weight vir die Honda so dis calculated).  Die Djebel het Showa suspensie voor en n 17liter tenk So much for progress...

Nou, sal die Honda'tjie so goed loop soos die Djebel na 18 jaar en 53000km sonder om enige olie te lek of te gebruik?

Ek diss nie die Honda nie, dis bloot n vraag?

As Chris says, I recon the Honda will give you the same  great service. I also strongly suspect that this has a hell of a lot to do with how you care for your bike. I doubt there are too many Djebels out there that compare to yours.
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2021, 01:40:32 pm »
Petri, Is there is a chance that you can keep the XT and get another bike. I have seen pics of your XT and it looks pristine. If it were me I would do all I could to keep the XT in the condition it is and only use it for the odd fun ride. Don't get me wrong....the bike is capable of doing proper adventure trips but there are so few of these great bikes in this condition that its worthwhile preserving.....As to the second bike....well that's entirely down to the type of riding you want to do and what puts the biggest grin on your dial. :ricky:
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2021, 02:47:50 pm »
Obviously if you can afford newer tech and if you donít do your own maintenance you should buy that.

But if you canít ( like me) then old tech is fine, since in real terms ( assuming average riding skills-level) the difference in what you are going to pay far, far exceeds the joy you are going to get in your riding.

For context I own two old school thumpers, a DR 650 with close to 40,000 on the clock, and a first generation KLR 650 with 98,000 on the clock. Justinís experience of KLRís isnít close to mine, except for his opinion on the brakes. Both are relatively light (165 and 172 kg respectively - dry that is). Neither uses oil, nor have they ever given me trouble on trips - and in that respect I prefer self -supported camping trips, 80% on gravel.

I would love a Honda 300, and donít doubt that it would be reliable to similar mileage as I have on my old thumpers. But to get one I would have to sell both my bikes and still fork out another 30k plus another 10k for a bigger tank ( both my old thumpers have big tanks), plus another 4-5k for an upgraded rear shock.

Even better, an adventurised KTM 500/525/450, but that would be even more expensive...


So, for now, as a pensioner old ballie, who can change his own oil, iíll Stick to old tech, thanks.
 
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2021, 02:56:47 pm »
Petri, Is there is a chance that you can keep the XT and get another bike. I have seen pics of your XT and it looks pristine. If it were me I would do all I could to keep the XT in the condition it is and only use it for the odd fun ride. Don't get me wrong....the bike is capable of doing proper adventure trips but there are so few of these great bikes in this condition that its worthwhile preserving.....As to the second bike....well that's entirely down to the type of riding you want to do and what puts the biggest grin on your dial. :ricky:

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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2021, 05:29:17 pm »
Petri, Is there is a chance that you can keep the XT and get another bike. I have seen pics of your XT and it looks pristine. If it were me I would do all I could to keep the XT in the condition it is and only use it for the odd fun ride. Don't get me wrong....the bike is capable of doing proper adventure trips but there are so few of these great bikes in this condition that its worthwhile preserving.....As to the second bike....well that's entirely down to the type of riding you want to do and what puts the biggest grin on your dial. :ricky:

My Bettie makes me feel good :3some:
Then a XT660R will feel just as good. Fi the only ďmodernĒ gadget needed on a bike.

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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2021, 05:32:59 pm »
 XT660R

Both the 660R en Z will be tippy toe tall for Petri, if he gets a second bike it needs to be a comfortable height. :deal:
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2021, 05:35:29 pm »
XT660R

Both the 660R en Z will be tippy toe tall for Petri, if he gets a second bike it needs to be a comfortable height. :deal:
The R is a quite a bit lower than the Z ?
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2021, 05:42:35 pm »
XT660R

Both the 660R en Z will be tippy toe tall for Petri, if he gets a second bike it needs to be a comfortable height. :deal:
The R is a quite a bit lower than the Z ?
I don't know buy how much but the Z is tall for me. Have ridden a R long time ago and is was tallish but not as tall as the Z yes.
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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2021, 05:44:29 pm »
Petri, Is there is a chance that you can keep the XT and get another bike. I have seen pics of your XT and it looks pristine. If it were me I would do all I could to keep the XT in the condition it is and only use it for the odd fun ride. Don't get me wrong....the bike is capable of doing proper adventure trips but there are so few of these great bikes in this condition that its worthwhile preserving.....As to the second bike....well that's entirely down to the type of riding you want to do and what puts the biggest grin on your dial. :ricky:

This, if you can.

It does get expensive though, licensing, insurance, they do actually cost money even if they dont move unfortunately.
 

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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2021, 05:57:57 pm »
XT660R 865mm
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2021, 05:59:49 pm »
XT660R 865mm
XT600 Tenere 34 L 890mm
XT660Z 895mm
660R for the winner then!! :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2021, 06:20:20 pm »
Maak soos oom Dan.
Hou die Xt en kry n 701 by.
Verstaan nie die saal hoogte issue nie.
As die wielle rol maak dit nie saak nie.
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Re: Old School vs newer Tech......which One??
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2021, 06:25:57 pm »
XT660R

Both the 660R en Z will be tippy toe tall for Petri, if he gets a second bike it needs to be a comfortable height. :deal:
I had a 660R and am same height as Petri, will suit him well


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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2021, 06:26:32 pm »
XT660R

Both the 660R en Z will be tippy toe tall for Petri, if he gets a second bike it needs to be a comfortable height. :deal:
I had a 660R and am same height as Petri, will suit him well


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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2021, 06:39:52 pm »


Check out the dismount from the guy (Klein Jan apparently) on the GayLR at Atlantis around 8:55  :laughing4:

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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2021, 06:40:58 pm »
XT660R

Both the 660R en Z will be tippy toe tall for Petri, if he gets a second bike it needs to be a comfortable height. :deal:
I had a 660R and am same height as Petri, will suit him well


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