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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2021, 10:21:01 am »
Second hand, I also cant afford or justify spending over R300K for a New GSA LC.

I know of a dog who years ago bought a GSA from BMW, used,
After a few years of using it well he swapped it for a 1290SAR, had that for a few months then sold that and still sold it for R10k more than the original GSA that he paid for

 
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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2021, 10:28:37 am »
Second hand, I also cant afford or justify spending over R300K for a New GSA LC.

In 2006  people said that bikes are getting expensive and you should be crazy to pay R125 000 for the
(then) brand new BMW 1200 GS Adventure.  :lol8:
 

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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2021, 10:46:33 am »
Second hand, I also cant afford or justify spending over R300K for a New GSA LC.

In 2006  people said that bikes are getting expensive and you should be crazy to pay R125 000 for the
(then) brand new BMW 1200 GS Adventure.  :lol8:

In 2036, they might be laughing at R300K for a bike  :deal:
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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2021, 10:55:58 am »
You sleep well, if you buy a brand new bike or car, knowing you starting with a fresh canvas, with factory backing.
If you bought a 2nd hand one, loaded with farkles, at a fair price.....Only time will tell if you bought (and saved) well.
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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2021, 12:45:22 pm »
I've only bought one new car and two new bikes in my life. I got tired of buying other people's problems.

To put it into perspective, the only two bikes I bought new were my KTM 690 and 790, widely regarded by many (non-owners) as two of the most unreliable motorcycles ever made. I bought them new and looked after them and they turned out to be the two most reliable bikes I've owned to date.

I did buy 20 odd second hand bikes as well but most of them came with varying amounts of neglect
If I recall correctly, that 790 did not look very very well, after you were finished with it :eek7:
 

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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2021, 12:50:56 pm »
I've only bought one new car and two new bikes in my life. I got tired of buying other people's problems.

To put it into perspective, the only two bikes I bought new were my KTM 690 and 790, widely regarded by many (non-owners) as two of the most unreliable motorcycles ever made. I bought them new and looked after them and they turned out to be the two most reliable bikes I've owned to date.

I did buy 20 odd second hand bikes as well but most of them came with varying amounts of neglect
If I recall correctly, that 790 did not look very very well, after you were finished with it :eek7:

I just tried to improve on the mantis front end look everyone likes to complain about
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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2021, 04:10:53 pm »
I've only bought one new car and two new bikes in my life. I got tired of buying other people's problems.

To put it into perspective, the only two bikes I bought new were my KTM 690 and 790, widely regarded by many (non-owners) as two of the most unreliable motorcycles ever made. I bought them new and looked after them and they turned out to be the two most reliable bikes I've owned to date.

I did buy 20 odd second hand bikes as well but most of them came with varying amounts of neglect

The amount of good knowledge that one needs to possess in order to buy successfully, and consistently, on the 2nd hand market, makes it unattractive for many.

Them I'll tell you of an example where even having the knowledge on vehicles will help you nothing;

I have a friend that looks after his bikes so well that they often, after several years, look as good as new. Some years ago, his bike overheated in the Tankwa, faulty thermostat.

If you or me were to buy that bike 2nd hand, in pristine condition with low kilos, how are we to know that there is very probably long-term problems waiting due to overheating?

Or the guy that neutral-revved his new-ish K9 GSX-R1000 in 2011 at the Buffalo rally.......how do you tell?
Exactly

My previous 990 was bought from a so called reputable dealer/re-seller. On the surface, The bike was in pristine condition for a 13 year old bike. When the bike arrived I started picking up issues and I was chastised for posting my complaints about this seller who had lots of supporters on the forum. I owned the bike for about 6 months, put very little mileage on it. Sold it to a forum member with full disclosure. New owner has uncovered some major issues on the bike, confirming that in this case, beauty was only skin deep. He has spent nearly half of purchase price getting the bike sorted.

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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2021, 04:24:58 pm »
I've only bought one new car and two new bikes in my life. I got tired of buying other people's problems.

To put it into perspective, the only two bikes I bought new were my KTM 690 and 790, widely regarded by many (non-owners) as two of the most unreliable motorcycles ever made. I bought them new and looked after them and they turned out to be the two most reliable bikes I've owned to date.

I did buy 20 odd second hand bikes as well but most of them came with varying amounts of neglect

The amount of good knowledge that one needs to possess in order to buy successfully, and consistently, on the 2nd hand market, makes it unattractive for many.

Them I'll tell you of an example where even having the knowledge on vehicles will help you nothing;

I have a friend that looks after his bikes so well that they often, after several years, look as good as new. Some years ago, his bike overheated in the Tankwa, faulty thermostat.

If you or me were to buy that bike 2nd hand, in pristine condition with low kilos, how are we to know that there is very probably long-term problems waiting due to overheating?

Or the guy that neutral-revved his new-ish K9 GSX-R1000 in 2011 at the Buffalo rally.......how do you tell?
Exactly

My previous 990 was bought from a so called reputable dealer/re-seller. On the surface, The bike was in pristine condition for a 13 year old bike. When the bike arrived I started picking up issues and I was chastised for posting my complaints about this seller who had lots of supporters on the forum. I owned the bike for about 6 months, put very little mileage on it. Sold it to a forum member with full disclosure. New owner has uncovered some major issues on the bike, confirming that in this case, beauty was only skin deep. He has spent nearly half of purchase price getting the bike sorted.

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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2021, 06:29:02 pm »
I have cracked a secret code to safe 2nd hand buying.

Buy Yamaha.
 

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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2021, 06:33:36 pm »
I have cracked a secret code to safe 2nd hand buying.

Buy Yamaha.
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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2021, 06:54:45 pm »
I have cracked a secret code to safe 2nd hand buying.

Buy Yamaha.
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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2021, 07:10:59 pm »
My pa het eenmaal gesÍ in die dag ry hy sy nuwe kar, in die nag ry die kar hom.
Ek het in 84 laas n muwe bike gekoop. XR500RE @ R5200.
Sedertdien is dit maar altyd 2de hands, en ek het OK gedoen, meestal met Suzukis.
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Re: NEW vs USED & LOADED WITH EXTRAS
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2021, 07:48:56 pm »
I have cracked a secret code to safe 2nd hand buying.

Buy Yamaha.
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