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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2021, 12:35:01 pm »
Looking at the specs, the pulse is 153 wet, which I wouldn't call light. Not too far off my DR650 of old.

The zones is a heavy piggy, although I don't have specs, that's just from sitting on one.
If you're looking at the zontes, you may as well be looking at the kawi 300x as well, similar bikes. Similarly not great offroad (I'm just picturing thick sand).
And both don't have cheap offerings on the second hand markets if you can find one.

Another issue with these new "cheaper" duel sport bikes, beyond their added weight over the older bikes mentioned, would be their comparatively horrible suspension.
Those old "top of the line" bikes had very good suspension for their day and still better than today's budget offerings.

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Read a review on the Pulse 200.  Sounds quite impressive.
https://www.zabikers.co.za/2021/02/02/theres-a-new-super-hero-in-town/

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2021, 12:40:20 pm »
Looking at the specs, the pulse is 153 wet, which I wouldn't call light. Not too far off my DR650 of old.

The zones is a heavy piggy, although I don't have specs, that's just from sitting on one.
If you're looking at the zontes, you may as well be looking at the kawi 300x as well, similar bikes. Similarly not great offroad (I'm just picturing thick sand).
And both don't have cheap offerings on the second hand markets if you can find one.

Another issue with these new "cheaper" duel sport bikes, beyond their added weight over the older bikes mentioned, would be their comparatively horrible suspension.
Those old "top of the line" bikes had very good suspension for their day and still better than today's budget offerings.

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Read a review on the Pulse 200.  Sounds quite impressive.
https://www.zabikers.co.za/2021/02/02/theres-a-new-super-hero-in-town/

Spoke to salesman at Fire-it-up.  The bike has a 20y 100k kms warranty  :eek7:

They are unfortunately the only dealership in SA atm

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2021, 12:46:01 pm »
Looks useful.
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2021, 12:49:50 pm »
Looks like a cool little bike with a load of potential.
But still not quite the bike I am looking for.
I am still quite weary of having less then 22kw.

But as the article pointed out. It's not about headline figures, that's being the how. It's more about the fact that small displacement, low output bike CAN and do get the job done. And with relative ease.

Take Itchy Boots as a prime example. Try be a small woman doing half of that on an F800 (no brand bashing, just the first bike to come to mind).

But I do feel, in the new bike segment that there is a big gap between the low output bikes and the fire breathers at the other end of the spectrum.
Specifically in the 250 to 400 cc range.

See the new KLR 650 revival, but with an XR400 or DR350

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2021, 02:46:41 pm »
Found this on the internet but no info available.
Maybe someone knows the bike/seller

http://vereeniging.southafricanlisted.com/motorcycles-parts/honda-tornado-scrambler-250cc_1060423.html
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2021, 03:14:15 pm »
Oja en ek soek 'n happy button asb  :ricky:

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2021, 03:21:44 pm »
Oja en ek soek 'n happy button asb  :ricky:

Pfffffft....................

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2021, 03:32:56 pm »
Dis net 'n issue as jy in Clarens of iewers in 'n coffee shop sit naby 'n mooi goose of 5 Grunder.

AL wat jy dan doen is jy probeer soos 'n World Traveller lyk. Camel innie bek, no care in the world, jy is besig om die Wereld te verower met jou kickstart thumper. :ricky:

AL wat jy NIE doen nie, is om daai XT te skop, hy gaan NIE vat as die gooses kyk nie. Verder kan jy basically ENIGIETS doen wat jy altyd gedoen het, wat jy oor droom om te doen, wat jy oor spyt is jy het gedoen (of nie), en ook wat jy ook al NOG in jou lewe wil doen (of dan nie) :pot:

Jy sit, en jy drink nog so drie honderd een en twintig espesso's, of hoe lank dit ook al vat totdat almal wat NIE moet kyk nie weg is. :xxbah:

Probleempie met die ou thumpers, of myne anway - as hy warm is start hy BAAAIE maklik. Maar hoe langer jy sit, hoe kouer word hy, en hoe minder maklik raak die proses.

As Bettie warm is en sy start nie DADELIK nie het ek al geleer........maak of jy iets vergeet het oorkant die pad by daai cafe, stap soontoe, en gaan sit daar en wag en moed skep vir die volgende probeerslag. Daars ook nou net SOVEEL keffies waantoe jy kastig gou moet stap.

Maar ja, soos ek se.......baie baie klein issue >:D
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2021, 04:16:19 pm »
Grunder........sal iets soos 'n CRF 230 wat ge roadworthy is nie dalk ook werk nie, dalk net bietjie ander sprocket of iets vir teer cruising as dit moet??

Nice bikes........ :drif:
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2021, 04:29:04 pm »
Oja en ek soek 'n happy button asb  :ricky:

Pfffffft....................

..............Amateurs.............. >:D >:D

 :lol8:

Ek het al "manne" sien bike skop... Hulle stap rooier weg as ek

Bike ry moet geniet word nie 'n chore wees nie  :ricky:

As jy n kickstart bike meer as 2 skoppe moet gee, maak die donnerse fout reg!!
 

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2021, 04:41:33 pm »
@petri oosthuizen
Nou word jy mos ook nie jonger nie. Jy sal later vir Bettie moet laat idle terwyl ietsie vat!!!  :imaposer:
 

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2021, 04:52:58 pm »
Grunder........sal iets soos 'n CRF 230 wat ge roadworthy is nie dalk ook werk nie, dalk net bietjie ander sprocket of iets vir teer cruising as dit moet??

Nice bikes........ :drif:
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2021, 04:53:16 pm »
Oja en ek soek 'n happy button asb  :ricky:

Pfffffft....................

..............Amateurs.............. >:D >:D

 :lol8:

Ek het al "manne" sien bike skop... Hulle stap rooier weg as ek

Bike ry moet geniet word nie 'n chore wees nie  :ricky:

As jy n kickstart bike meer as 2 skoppe moet gee, maak die donnerse fout reg!!

Ja man skop net harder. ;D
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2021, 04:54:35 pm »
@petri oosthuizen
Nou word jy mos ook nie jonger nie. Jy sal later vir Bettie moet laat idle terwyl ietsie vat!!!  :imaposer:

Dis net my hare Lood.

OK so paar anner goedjies ook maar jy skop nie met dit nie....... >:D
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2021, 05:47:32 pm »
Saw these two lovely DR200SE's in Ri's RR and got more intrigued with the idea
They are very reliable bikes  :thumleft: Even a Djebel version if you csn find one, nice extras like carrier rack etc

Ek sien hulle sÍ "not for road use"  :patch:

https://suzukimotorcycle.co.za/bikes/agricultural-bikes/dr200se/


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Die ou DR 200s was op die pad, nuwes kan nie meer gelisensieer word nie.

My vrou het 2 gehad, asook die Djebel DR 250 met die 28 Hp DOHC enjin. My vrou was nie mal oor die wye 17 liter tenk nie.

Koet het haar Djebel nou.

Het nog 2 DR 200s wat lank gestaan het herstel, en weer verkoop. Nie geld gemaak nie, maar baie geleer. Een was n grey import Djebel.

Die blou DR 200 op die advertensie is eintlik die ou plaasmodel wat jy kan lisensieer, maar hy's ge-butcher. Die groot agterste rakkie is bv weg. Ek het nie verder in detail na hierdie DR gekyk nie.

Die Djebel DR 200 lyk meer soos ń kleiner DR 650 SE, met ń kleiner OEM agterste bagasie rak, maar nie die olie koeler wat standaard op die plaasmodel is nie.

As jy geduldig is sal jy ń mooi DR 200 opspoor, wat gelisensieerd is.

Nie ń vinnige fiets nie. Kyk net dat die 13 tand voor sprocket met ń 15 tand vervang is, anders is maks snelheid hier by 70km/h.

Die Djebel DR 200 het ń 15 tand voor sprocket standaard op gehad.

Met die 15 tand is 90km/h ń gemaklike snelheid. Reg vir grondpad, maar gevaarlik op teer.

Die Suzuki DR 350 SE is die unicorn, maar ook al 20 jaar oud.

Lig, fantastiese verstelbare suspensie en 30Hp enjin.

Glo die Honda Tornado 250 is ń goeie en bekostigbare opsie, en meer geredelik beskikbaar, daarna die Honda CRF 250 L.


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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2021, 06:03:27 pm »
DRZ 400 light, powerful, roadworthy, happy-button, good suspension.....
 

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2021, 06:05:18 pm »
My last kickstart only bike was a Suzuki DR500, and despite it being over 20 years old when I owned it, kickstarting was a breeze. The technique of releasing the de-compression lever at the right point was easily learned and first or second kick starting could be guaranteed 95% of the time. On other rare occasions it was simply a case of turning off the petrol, kicking over a few times with the decompressor held open and the throttle wide, then turn on the petrol and try again. Never once did I have a prolonged kicking session.

My only other bike with both kick and electric starts was a little Ying Tong jobbie and on that I very rarely used the button. Being the old schooler that I am my instinct was to 'preserve' the battery.  :lol8:
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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2021, 07:11:11 pm »
Ek het n 250 ttr en n 660r, het al lang paaie gery met die 250 het dit geniet,dis n mindset,het die 250 jare net vir werk toe gebruik,as ek nou ver ry is my stuitjie af die 660 is baie geriefliker ek oor weeg om die 250 te verkoop,mens moet die klein fietse gaan ry en sien wat dit bied.
 

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Re: Smaller dual sport bike options
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2021, 07:17:10 pm »


ek oor weeg om die 250 te verkoop,mens moet die klein fietse gaan ry en sien wat dit bied.

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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2021, 07:49:06 pm »
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