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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2021, 07:22:02 am »
Go big
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2021, 07:31:53 am »
Go big

Yes!  Go for the biggest Tenere! :pot:

It is a pity that so many riders, fresh in the game, opt for these big bikes.

They limit your experience, and even good riders will find the big D/S bikes a handbrake in developing skills.

Perhaps time for a British-style small learner bike rule?
 
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2021, 07:46:05 am »
Go big

Yes!  Go for the biggest Tenere! :pot:

It is a pity that so many riders, fresh in the game, opt for these big bikes.

They limit your experience, and even good riders will find the big D/S bikes a handbrake in developing skills.

Perhaps time for a British-style small learner bike rule?

Jy moet eers daar gewees het om te weet jy wil nie daar wees nie.
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2021, 07:55:06 am »
Go big

Yes!  Go for the biggest Tenere! :pot:

It is a pity that so many riders, fresh in the game, opt for these big bikes.

They limit your experience, and even good riders will find the big D/S bikes a handbrake in developing skills.

Perhaps time for a British-style small learner bike rule?

Jy moet eers daar gewees het om te weet jy wil nie daar wees nie.

 :thumleft: :thumleft: Dis mos wat ek se, met die ou grotes gaan jy nie sommer "daar" kom om uit te vind nie.

Maar wat jy nie van weet nie, kan jy seker ook nie mis nie?
 
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2021, 08:12:17 am »
Go big

Yes!  Go for the biggest Tenere! :pot:

It is a pity that so many riders, fresh in the game, opt for these big bikes.

They limit your experience, and even good riders will find the big D/S bikes a handbrake in developing skills.

Perhaps time for a British-style small learner bike rule?

Couldn't agree with you more, just look how these big bikes are limiting these poor fellows...
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2021, 08:43:53 am »
Go big

Yes!  Go for the biggest Tenere! :pot:

It is a pity that so many riders, fresh in the game, opt for these big bikes.

They limit your experience, and even good riders will find the big D/S bikes a handbrake in developing skills.

Perhaps time for a British-style small learner bike rule?

Couldn't agree with you more, just look how these big bikes are limiting these poor fellows...
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One of my "research" videos during the quest to come to my narrow list. Amazing stuff!

And yes, I am very fixed on BMW for some of the same reasons mentioned above. The Africa Twin did make the short list, but that is how "exciting" it got in terms of a crazy bike. Love Yamaha and neighbour has the T7 and I have done extensive research on those as well. Just not the kind of  experience I am looking for.




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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2021, 08:49:29 am »
Yip, don't mind Danie. Nothing beats the coffee and muffins vibe  :lol8:
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2021, 08:58:45 am »
One of my "research" videos during the quest to come to my narrow list. Amazing stuff!

Very good riders. Most will struggle to do that on a big GS including myself so don't let that fool you
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2021, 09:02:35 am »
It almost sounds like, if you arent a good rider then you need a smaller bike like a yamaha  :peepwall:
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2021, 09:10:03 am »
It almost sounds like, if you arent a good rider then you need a smaller bike like a yamaha  :peepwall:



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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2021, 09:11:18 am »
It almost sounds like, if you arent a good rider then you need a smaller bike like a yamaha  :peepwall:

If you're starting out, it's just a lot easier (+ cheaper + less painful + less insurance claims) to accelerate your skill progression if you start smaller
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2021, 10:04:28 am »
If the 2016 is still the air cooled engine just walk on by ... it is a bit on the agricultural side to say the least..... ;) I have ridden them back to back on a few occasions and this is just my opinion, some may disagree,

The 1250 is just sooooo much better in terms of just about everything compared to the 1200.... I would spend my money on a KTM rather, but if I had to choose between the two Beemers the 1250 is a no brainer imo... :thumleft:
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2021, 10:12:40 am »
If you are going to pillion or ride mostly tarmac, go with the GS.  The GSA gives you a longer fuel range, the GSA also has a stronger alternator if you are going to run accessories

Otherwise a Yamaha T7 or Honda AT or even KTM 690/701 Husqvarna
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2021, 10:21:05 am »
Q : What GS must I buy ?

A : A KTM

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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2021, 10:23:47 am »
Q : What GS must I buy ?

A : A KTM

 :imaposer: I love this forum.

Many of us have been along this same road of researching and buying bikes so we can't help ourselves and must give our 2c :laughing4:
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2021, 10:26:00 am »
Q : What GS must I buy ?

A : A KTM

 :imaposer: I love this forum.

Many of us have been along this same road of researching and buying bikes so we can't help ourselves  :laughing4:
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I know. Had to have a 1200 ADV. Got it, was immediately sorry about it and swapped it for a 660 Tenere.
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2021, 02:41:00 pm »
Q : What GS must I buy ?

A : A KTM

 :imaposer: I love this forum.

Many of us have been along this same road of researching and buying bikes so we can't help ourselves  :laughing4:
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I know. Had to have a 1200 ADV. Got it, was immediately sorry about it and swapped it for a 660 Tenere.

 :) I did the exact opposite, After the WR450 went, I got the Ten. 660 which I found too top heavy, so swopped it for the GS1200 and I enjoyed the challenge of bashing that around.
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2021, 03:44:52 pm »
I would go with the 1250, it also has a warranty which to me is a big plus as well as a pannier set.

Lack of ESA and the fact that it has mag rims considered?

I get so much mixed reviews on the importance of ESA.

If I damage a rim, insurance need to sort out. Just need to get used to the look of it.  :-\
i would go for the 1250 i like the mag rims and you can fix them if you have a problem
 
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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2021, 06:14:20 pm »
Q : What GS must I buy ?

A : A KTM

 :imaposer: I love this forum.

Many of us have been along this same road of researching and buying bikes so we can't help ourselves and must give our 2c :laughing4:



Exactly why, except for being a bit of a Yamaha fan, I came in here to offer my views and experience. Not only my own experience, because that is quite different from mainstream riders, but my seeing over

many years how people fall for the muffin plan, and never reach anywhere near full potential.

Then "BenTen" get offered up as a test, like it's the Ertsberg rodeo. :biggrin:

You guys sound like Noraly, with that Carl's dinner of a Sani pass. :pot:
 

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Re: BMW GS Buyers Advice Needed
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2021, 07:08:26 pm »
Does the bike with the extra set of wheels have brake disks fitted as well as other brake pads for the second set of wheels?

If not,  you will have to swop the spoke wheels disks every time you put the mags wheels on OR buy a second set of disks and pads. Lotsa ZAR   :deal:

I also had two set of wheels for my GS back in 2005. Eventually got gatvol of swoppings disks all the time and eventually just left the mag wheels on.

They were lighter and thus the bike was slightly faster.  :thumleft:

The mag wheels would give off small little silver shafings (almost like skilfers) when washing after a good offroad session, but before the wheels gave any shit, I sold the bike. I rode those mag wheels everywhere.

So in my opinion the extra set of wheels is a waste of money.   :3some:

Get spoke wheels and be done  :ricky:
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