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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2021, 09:18:58 am »
Ek het presies dieselfde gesien toe ek my XL600 se voorwiel afgehaal het  :-\

Ek wonder of mens dit kan laat regmaak of dit liewers veiliger is om 'n nuwe rim te koop?
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2021, 09:51:43 am »
hierdie is darm maar vrek baie japanese terugvoer.

Ek het my botter ktm rims alle kante toe gebuig maar hulle het nooit gekraak nie. Reggebuig op n press en steeds nie gekraak nie. Miskien is die japanese staal te hard dat dit bros is
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2021, 12:58:20 pm »
You have me worried, I have a 10mm crack on the side of my 660ís front rim

The 660 was prone, Grimm had one crack on the weld.  :thumleft: .


Yep, I had 2 cracked 660R rims. The earlier 660R's were prone to cracking on the weld, and there was a different part code rim for the later ones. The one I replaced early, and the other I bought the replacement rim, and never got to fit it - the crack stopped growing.

I had a similer thing happen to 2SD - I woke up one night with a huge commotion happening somewhere in my property - did a quick scout around and checked the motion sensors, and nothing out of place. The next morning I went into my workshop and it was a mess (OK, OK, MORE of a mess...) the rim had given way and bounced around my workshop knocking everything around. The fact that the noise woke me up on the other end of the house and the damage done was quite spectacular.
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2021, 02:31:37 pm »
guys guys guys

there is indo china jap thread in here somewhere

this is down right dangerous!
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2021, 02:32:55 pm »
hierdie is darm maar vrek baie japanese terugvoer.

Ek het my botter ktm rims alle kante toe gebuig maar hulle het nooit gekraak nie. Reggebuig op n press en steeds nie gekraak nie. Miskien is die japanese staal te hard dat dit bros is
The XL in the pic above is 34 years old, Danieís XT 20 plus. The XT660Z rims is made in Italy so Iím not surprised they dont hold up. Should have built them with DID or Takasago. Smaller capacity KTMís also comes with quality Japanese rims for good reason  :deal:

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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2021, 02:34:42 pm »
hierdie is darm maar vrek baie japanese terugvoer.

Ek het my botter ktm rims alle kante toe gebuig maar hulle het nooit gekraak nie. Reggebuig op n press en steeds nie gekraak nie. Miskien is die japanese staal te hard dat dit bros is
The XL in the pic above is 34 years old, Danieís XT 20 plus. The XT660Z rims is made in Italy so Iím not surprised they dont hold up. Should have built them with DID or Takasago. Smaller capacity KTMís also comes with quality Japanese rims for good reason  :deal:

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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2021, 02:42:27 pm »
hierdie is darm maar vrek baie japanese terugvoer.

Ek het my botter ktm rims alle kante toe gebuig maar hulle het nooit gekraak nie. Reggebuig op n press en steeds nie gekraak nie. Miskien is die japanese staal te hard dat dit bros is
The XL in the pic above is 34 years old, Danieís XT 20 plus. The XT660Z rims is made in Italy so Iím not surprised they dont hold up. Should have built them with DID or Takasago. Smaller capacity KTMís also comes with quality Japanese rims for good reason  :deal:

En hulle is nie staal nie maar aluminium

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so you are saying there is a Indo China Italy thread in here?
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2021, 07:18:54 pm »
hierdie is darm maar vrek baie japanese terugvoer.

Ek het my botter ktm rims alle kante toe gebuig maar hulle het nooit gekraak nie. Reggebuig op n press en steeds nie gekraak nie. Miskien is die japanese staal te hard dat dit bros is

Soos jy se, as jy n ding sag genoeg maak, sal dit altyd buig en nie kraak nie.

My XT het 100 000kms en 20 jaar se harde lewe agter die rug, nog nooit hoef te sukkel op n press nie........ :pot: O0  [behalwe met die agterrim, wat na een Canola run soos n moslemkerk se sekelmaan gelyk het.
 

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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2021, 09:21:28 pm »
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2021, 07:33:42 am »
Those soft old Saxxes KTM rims one can sommer hammer straight on the bike. I then got the new Akront type. Those you need to heat up and press straight. My final iteration on the 1190 was the excel. That broke a spoke with slight dent. Anyone know if they can be fixed?

Although honestly...I just leave that as is. Problem is you can't sell something like that.

That's at 1.8bar. (and 150hp 🙂) now I am never going below 2.2 anymore so far so good on the 990.
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2021, 08:12:50 am »
The "easily dented" KTM rims are due to a rim that is a bit soft, BUT also to the bikes weight, and how KTM riders ride often, compared to the kerkraad on their BMW's.

You hit a rock at 100 on a 220Kg bike, as opposed to at 100 on a 140Kg one, there is just more stress on those wheels.
 

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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2021, 04:18:53 pm »
Daai krake maak niks op normale rides nie.
As jy die kerkraad roetes ry (yammie manne) dan is dit ook geen worries.

As jy wil saag, moet jy daai rim maar op 'n stadium vervang want mens wil verseker nie 'n onverwagte klip bank slaan, teen spoed, met so 'n 20jaar ou gekraakte gedoente nie.

..wel ek wil nie
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2021, 05:07:15 pm »
Ek het presies dieselfde gesien toe ek my XL600 se voorwiel afgehaal het  :-\

Ek wonder of mens dit kan laat regmaak of dit liewers veiliger is om 'n nuwe rim te koop?

I see that you have already reinforced it with duct tape so I don't think you have to worry about that crack.  Unless of course you will actually ride your bike, then it seems like a no brainer to fix it in a more durable fashion.  Considering how relatively inexpensive a new rim is I would not mess around with getting it welded and straightened after welding.
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2021, 11:00:58 pm »
Daai krake maak niks op normale rides nie.
As jy die kerkraad roetes ry (yammie manne) dan is dit ook geen worries.

As jy wil saag, moet jy daai rim maar op 'n stadium vervang want mens wil verseker nie 'n onverwagte klip bank slaan, teen spoed, met so 'n 20jaar ou gekraakte gedoente nie.

..wel ek wil nie



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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2021, 11:53:37 pm »
Wat praat jy nou?

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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2021, 04:30:09 pm »
Julle wat so rims patch: wag tot jy iets straf soos n erosie slootjie. Iets wat normaalweg n smiley sou slaan sal jou dan tussen jou oŽ slaan
 

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« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2021, 05:37:44 pm »
Wat praat jy nou?

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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2021, 08:17:15 am »
Ek het presies dieselfde gesien toe ek my XL600 se voorwiel afgehaal het  :-\

Ek wonder of mens dit kan laat regmaak of dit liewers veiliger is om 'n nuwe rim te koop?

I see that you have already reinforced it with duct tape so I don't think you have to worry about that crack.  Unless of course you will actually ride your bike, then it seems like a no brainer to fix it in a more durable fashion.  Considering how relatively inexpensive a new rim is I would not mess around with getting it welded and straightened after welding.

This is a project bike that I'm busy with. I only discovered the crack (and duct tape) when I took the  tire of the rim.
I will probably replace the rim. The plan is to ride the bike when done.
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2021, 09:23:04 am »
Ek het presies dieselfde gesien toe ek my XL600 se voorwiel afgehaal het  :-\

Ek wonder of mens dit kan laat regmaak of dit liewers veiliger is om 'n nuwe rim te koop?

I see that you have already reinforced it with duct tape so I don't think you have to worry about that crack.  Unless of course you will actually ride your bike, then it seems like a no brainer to fix it in a more durable fashion.  Considering how relatively inexpensive a new rim is I would not mess around with getting it welded and straightened after welding.

This is a project bike that I'm busy with. I only discovered the crack (and duct tape) when I took the  tire of the rim.
I will probably replace the rim. The plan is to ride the bike when done.

My rim op my ou CRF450X het ook so kraak gehad.  Ek het hom laat weld en daarna paar maal op die MX baan gery.  Nou ek land kort op al die jumps so hy het maar houe gevat en nooit weer gekraak tot ek hom verkoop het nie. 
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Re: Ignoring a cracked rim.
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2021, 06:27:48 pm »
Ek het presies dieselfde gesien toe ek my XL600 se voorwiel afgehaal het  :-\

Ek wonder of mens dit kan laat regmaak of dit liewers veiliger is om 'n nuwe rim te koop?

I see that you have already reinforced it with duct tape so I don't think you have to worry about that crack.  Unless of course you will actually ride your bike, then it seems like a no brainer to fix it in a more durable fashion.  Considering how relatively inexpensive a new rim is I would not mess around with getting it welded and straightened after welding.

This is a project bike that I'm busy with. I only discovered the crack (and duct tape) when I took the  tire of the rim.
I will probably replace the rim. The plan is to ride the bike when done.




The duct tape was only there to protect the tube from the nipples, not to hold the rim together.