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What to get
« on: August 13, 2021, 07:45:31 pm »
Hi all

Currently I have no dirt bike, only a Harley  :peepwall:

I have owned a GSA 1200 and a Dakar.

I want something smallish again. 500-750 range. Nearly went for a 800BM recently, but decided to broaden my search. I have no idea what to look at in terms of other manufacturers in the 500-700 range.

Not too price sensitive. Just a lekker bike for 50/50 use. Shortish trips.

My first bike was a Suzuki  8)

I do favour looks.

Your ideas please.
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Re: What to get
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2021, 08:42:14 pm »
Thinking back to my XR650L days, I would seriously consider a KTM690 or Husky701 if were looking to buy something in that segment.
Maybe even 500/501.
 

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Re: What to get
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2021, 08:44:16 pm »
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Re: What to get
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2021, 07:22:38 am »
Get this one:

500cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank
6 speed box with close ratios in 1-3 and a comfortable cruise of 130km/h
hand guards, screen, luggage rack and bash plate as standard
25km/liter with a 17 liter tank
Lightweight slip-on that sounds good
Sprung properly for a 90kg rider with 25kg luggage, touring seat, seat 830mm high
Tubeless spoked rims
Sub 200kg wet weight
R150k price range
10 000km service interval

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Re: What to get
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2021, 07:14:31 am »
Yamaha T700
 

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Re: What to get
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2021, 07:26:00 am »
Yamaha T700
Closest you'll find.

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Re: What to get
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2021, 07:31:00 am »
Get this one:

500cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank
6 speed box with close ratios in 1-3 and a comfortable cruise of 130km/h
hand guards, screen, luggage rack and bash plate as standard
25km/liter with a 17 liter tank
Lightweight slip-on that sounds good
Sprung properly for a 90kg rider with 25kg luggage, touring seat, seat 830mm high
Tubeless spoked rims
Sub 200kg wet weight
R150k price range
10 000km service interval

When you find the unicorn, let me know where
 :sip:
And when you woke up, your coffee was cold.

Surely possible, but not with a R 150k budget. Add at least another R 100k to get to your imaginary requirements.

Then imagine the complaints about the price tag.

Dream on...

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Re: What to get
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2021, 07:41:22 am »
Get this one:

500cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank
6 speed box with close ratios in 1-3 and a comfortable cruise of 130km/h
hand guards, screen, luggage rack and bash plate as standard
25km/liter with a 17 liter tank
Lightweight slip-on that sounds good
Sprung properly for a 90kg rider with 25kg luggage, touring seat, seat 830mm high
Tubeless spoked rims
Sub 200kg wet weight
R150k price range
10 000km service interval

When you find the unicorn, let me know where
 :sip:
And when you woke up, your coffee was cold.

Surely possible, but not with a R 150k budget. Add at least another R 100k to get to your imaginary requirements.

Then imagine the complaints about the price tag.

Dream on...

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Leave off the fancy screens, computers, traction control, riding modes, ABS, DCT and all the other girly bits that only the posers need, and they might get close.  :pot:
 
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Re: What to get
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2021, 01:25:25 pm »
Yamaha T7 or GS800/850.
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Re: What to get
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2021, 02:23:14 pm »
Get this one:

500cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank
6 speed box with close ratios in 1-3 and a comfortable cruise of 130km/h
hand guards, screen, luggage rack and bash plate as standard
25km/liter with a 17 liter tank
Lightweight slip-on that sounds good
Sprung properly for a 90kg rider with 25kg luggage, touring seat, seat 830mm high
Tubeless spoked rims
Sub 200kg wet weight
R150k price range
10 000km service interval

When you find the unicorn, let me know where
 :sip:
And when you woke up, your coffee was cold.

Surely possible, but not with a R 150k budget. Add at least another R 100k to get to your imaginary requirements.

Then imagine the complaints about the price tag.

Dream on...

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Leave off the fancy screens, computers, traction control, riding modes, ABS, DCT and all the other girly bits that only the posers need, and they might get close.  :pot:
T7 is close to your requirements.

ABS is the only riding aid you'll find on the T7.

I reckon many of us would love a bike like your dream bike.

A future 490 KTM Twin could come close, if it's based on a 500 Enduro.

I had the 2016 KTM 500 XCW. Did not have any rider aids. I would love a 500 twin motor in that frame, with the gearbox you suggested, nothing else.

The price for even such a basic twin I reckon will be close to R200k.

If you don't ride in the gnarliest of terrain, the T7 should be your first choice. I love mine.

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Re: What to get
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2021, 05:29:50 pm »
Kobus my option for you is a XT 660 Z Tenere or 660R. :deal: :thumleft:

Look no further:

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Re: What to get
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2021, 07:57:18 am »
Get this one:

500cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank
6 speed box with close ratios in 1-3 and a comfortable cruise of 130km/h
hand guards, screen, luggage rack and bash plate as standard
25km/liter with a 17 liter tank
Lightweight slip-on that sounds good
Sprung properly for a 90kg rider with 25kg luggage, touring seat, seat 830mm high
Tubeless spoked rims
Sub 200kg wet weight
R150k price range
10 000km service interval

When you find the unicorn, let me know where
 :sip:
And when you woke up, your coffee was cold.

Surely possible, but not with a R 150k budget. Add at least another R 100k to get to your imaginary requirements.

Then imagine the complaints about the price tag.

Dream on...

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Leave off the fancy screens, computers, traction control, riding modes, ABS, DCT and all the other girly bits that only the posers need, and they might get close.  :pot:
T7 is close to your requirements.

ABS is the only riding aid you'll find on the T7.

I reckon many of us would love a bike like your dream bike.

A future 490 KTM Twin could come close, if it's based on a 500 Enduro.

I had the 2016 KTM 500 XCW. Did not have any rider aids. I would love a 500 twin motor in that frame, with the gearbox you suggested, nothing else.

The price for even such a basic twin I reckon will be close to R200k.

If you don't ride in the gnarliest of terrain, the T7 should be your first choice. I love mine.

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Agreed, good choice, the T7 is an awesome piece of kit. It's a pity that saffers have to eat a one third price premium over what customers in the states pay. 200k equates to more than 13 thousand dollars, makes my eyes water...
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Re: What to get
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2021, 08:00:54 am »
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Re: What to get
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2021, 08:10:11 am »
He said he is not price sensitive: T700 no contest!
 

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Re: What to get
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2021, 08:39:44 am »
He said he is not price sensitive: T700 no contest!


There is a problem here though...

someone that can say he is not price sensitive have made some good financial decisions in the past to get there.

and it will be difficult to stop now. The accountant inner voice will block him, paying R220k for a R150k bike does not add up.
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Re: What to get
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2021, 09:13:33 am »
He said he is not price sensitive: T700 no contest!
And favours good looks, case closed
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Re: What to get
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2021, 12:38:19 pm »
Way back I liked the adventurised Honda CB500x.
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Re: What to get
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2021, 01:02:17 pm »
Friend of mine just posted on another chat group some pics and specs of a Kawasaki KL250G super sherpa.

Lovely little bike, 30,2hp. 113kg wet. Not a 500 twin, but for a 250, all boxes well and truly ticked.

Production stopped in 2010.  :'(  FFS  ??? ???

Now they sing the praises of a 2021 19hp 158k Honda.  :angry3:
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Re: What to get
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2021, 01:40:09 pm »
Way back I liked the adventurised Honda CB500x.

Exactly .. way back

Before cell phones were invented  :peepwall:

I joke but they are actually really nice if you can fine one
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Re: What to get
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2021, 01:41:47 pm »
Just get the 450L and be done with it.. everything you need on a mid size mid range bike.
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