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Ek weet nie hoekom iemand nou die idee gekry het om die post te link na die AT nie maar nou ja dit kon ook seker as voorbeeld gebruik geword het alhoewel dit wil voorkom of daar geen fout met die fiets was waarna verwys word nie.

Persoonlik dink ek tegnologie is goed en veilig, daar kan wel nou en dan 'n probleem op duik maar die vervaardigers sal so iets dadelik reg stel sou hulle ondersoek bewys dat die probleem by die ontwerp/werking van die komponent lÍ. Maar persoonlik dink ek die dam word onder die eend uit geruk deesdae met tegnologie op adventure fietse, almal wil nuwe gadgets ens laai om die spec op papier beter te laat lyk maar is al die gadgets werklik nodig, ok daar is sekere goed wat deesdae al algemeen is wat die lewe makliker/veiliger maak maar so is daar ook 'n spul goed wat ek dink  90% 'n mindset is en nie werklik nodig is nie. Ek sÍ nie tegnologie moet agter bly nie maar van die goed maak net meer sin vir my op bv 'n toer fietse wat net teerpad ry en gemak sekerlik een van die grootste rolle speel as op adventure fietse.
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Vir elke ou verskil die behoefte. Vir my is die beste uitvindsel tot hede cruise control. Sonder dit sou ek moeilik kon aanhou ry want my regter hand is gebogger van jare se bikery en kannie meer heeldag throttle vashou nie. Throttle lock help maar cruise control is lekkerder.
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Vir elke ou verskil die behoefte. Vir my is die beste uitvindsel tot hede cruise control. Sonder dit sou ek moeilik kon aanhou ry want my regter hand is gebogger van jare se bikery en kannie meer heeldag throttle vashou nie. Throttle lock help maar cruise control is lekkerder.
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Vir elke ou verskil die behoefte. Vir my is die beste uitvindsel tot hede cruise control. Sonder dit sou ek moeilik kon aanhou ry want my regter hand is gebogger van jare se bikery en kannie meer heeldag throttle vashou nie. Throttle lock help maar cruise control is lekkerder.

Ek stem saam, toe ek my tweede Super Tenere (ZE) gekoop het was my woorde "wat de hel moet ek met cruise control op 'n bike maak", wel na 'n paar lang trips het my mindset verander en het ek besef hoe great dit is, om in twee dae vanaf George na Nelspruit te ry is 'n walk in the park en ek het ook al 1200 km op 'n dag gedoen sonder baie moeite.

Soos jy noem, throttle lock werk maar nie so goed soos 'n cruise control wat die spoed beheer en konstant hou nie.
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Vir elke ou verskil die behoefte. Vir my is die beste uitvindsel tot hede cruise control. Sonder dit sou ek moeilik kon aanhou ry want my regter hand is gebogger van jare se bikery en kannie meer heeldag throttle vashou nie. Throttle lock help maar cruise control is lekkerder.

You are so right about this.  A most wonderful invention.  I did confess to this somewhere online and I am still trying to recover from the abuse.  Hence the reason for the smaller font, maybe this confession slips under the radar.
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Vir elke ou verskil die behoefte. Vir my is die beste uitvindsel tot hede cruise control. Sonder dit sou ek moeilik kon aanhou ry want my regter hand is gebogger van jare se bikery en kannie meer heeldag throttle vashou nie. Throttle lock help maar cruise control is lekkerder.

You are so right about this.  A most wonderful invention.  I did confess to this somewhere online and I am still trying to recover from the abuse.  Hence the reason for the smaller font, maybe this confession slips under the radar.



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Earlier this year, coming back from Bart in Pretoria, my right wrist started aching nin a familiar way, the same way my left wrist has been complaining for 40 years. Cruise control would have helped.
 

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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2021, 09:24:14 am »
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2021, 10:20:35 am »
maybe this confession slips under the radar.

You think so?
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2021, 11:46:04 am »
ABS is designed to help.

Yay & Nay.

I'm no fan of Bret but this test is a good one  :thumleft:
With the relevant ABS (mode) set to On he relied totally & utterly on the electronics, he just took a big handful and let the computer do its thing.
That's a good test I think - so, to be clear, he didn't "lean" his breaking against the ABS (which I think most of us do!) but yanked the handle back!
The results simply show that normal people cannot do better.

So, is that "helping" only?
I think it is quite a bit more than that....


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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2021, 08:43:15 pm »
If you need ABS absolutely to stay on a bike you better stop riding a bike. Its an aid. Thats all.

The video above is marketing nonsense and it will probably cause accidents if idiots try the same.
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2021, 08:46:51 pm »
ABS is designed to help.

Yay & Nay.

I'm no fan of Bret but this test is a good one  :thumleft:
With the relevant ABS (mode) set to On he relied totally & utterly on the electronics, he just took a big handful and let the computer do its thing.
That's a good test I think - so, to be clear, he didn't "lean" his breaking against the ABS (which I think most of us do!) but yanked the handle back!
The results simply show that normal people cannot do better.

So, is that "helping" only?
I think it is quite a bit more than that....





Sowhy is there no ABS on enduro or mx bikes?  Don't they stop as fast as they can too?  Come on, out with it.

ABS is just for mere palooka mortals.
 

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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2021, 10:29:07 pm »
Perhaps because of the percentage weight increase such a system would add to a dirtbike.

Also the lighter the bike, the easier it is to bring it to a standstill. (Thus further reducing the need for such devices)

Abs just takes away all the fun, imo. I recall locking both wheels of my VTR in the wet and using my leg as a tripod while sliding to a standstill  :lol8:
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2021, 10:51:35 pm »
ABS is just for mere palooka mortals.

My dear fellow Palooka, welcome to the brotherhood!
You also own a 701 of which one cannot switch the ABS of the front wheel off hence you qualify with the same full colours I have  :thumleft:
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2021, 07:48:10 am »
ABS is designed to help.

Yay & Nay.

I'm no fan of Bret but this test is a good one  :thumleft:
With the relevant ABS (mode) set to On he relied totally & utterly on the electronics, he just took a big handful and let the computer do its thing.
That's a good test I think - so, to be clear, he didn't "lean" his breaking against the ABS (which I think most of us do!) but yanked the handle back!
The results simply show that normal people cannot do better.

So, is that "helping" only?
I think it is quite a bit more than that....





Sowhy is there no ABS on enduro or mx bikes?  Don't they stop as fast as they can too?  Come on, out with it.

ABS is just for mere palooka mortals.

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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2021, 08:16:45 am »
if only I was as good as you guys! Wish I could also say ABS is a foefie.

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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2021, 08:30:54 am »
Vir elke ou verskil die behoefte. Vir my is die beste uitvindsel tot hede cruise control. Sonder dit sou ek moeilik kon aanhou ry want my regter hand is gebogger van jare se bikery en kannie meer heeldag throttle vashou nie. Throttle lock help maar cruise control is lekkerder.

You are so right about this.  A most wonderful invention.  I did confess to this somewhere online and I am still trying to recover from the abuse.  Hence the reason for the smaller font, maybe this confession slips under the radar.

Cruise control is fantastic. The only excuse for not liking it is not having had it before
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2021, 09:50:25 am »
Cruise control is fantastic. The only excuse for not liking it is not having had it before

We differ - I have it (std fitment), used it once (it does work), absolutely detest the magteloosheidsgevoel it gives me, and will neverever touch that button again!
But, great we're all different!  :thumleft:
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2021, 10:06:10 am »
Cruise control is fantastic. The only excuse for not liking it is not having had it before

We differ - I have it (std fitment), used it once (it does work), absolutely detest the magteloosheidsgevoel it gives me, and will neverever touch that button again!
But, great we're all different!  :thumleft:

Yes but you are weird  ;D

For me it's not magteloosheid, it's more control. Try it some more  >:D
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Re: Is tegnologie altyd so goed en veilig ? (Geen brand bashing op die fabrikaat)
« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2021, 12:17:37 pm »
If we want to take about technology that is unsafe we need to talk about those bloody Ipads all the fancy bikes and cars have in place of speedos.

The information readout of a vehicle or bike needs to be concise, clear and not distracting. These Ipads with all the functions and menu screens on them i find super distracting. I don't even run a GPS on my bike for that same reason.
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