Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register

Author Topic: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?  (Read 553 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 2StrokeDan

  • a Man of Character
  • Worshond
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 690 Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 27,733
  • Thanked: 2646 times
  • Slim like Bill, straight like Steve
Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2021, 10:44:39 pm »
Imo, the ultimate test of reliability was not these exotic and far-away endurance races, it was the local bike rallies of the 80' and 90's.

And here Honda stood no chance, it was a Suzuki thing all the way. :biggrin:

Try rev a Honda V4 all night and still ride home the next day....... ::)
 

Offline TheBear

  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: BMW R1150GS Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 11,269
  • Thanked: 871 times
  • Die Ruiter sal KilRoy regruk
Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2021, 12:45:21 pm »
Imo, the ultimate test of reliability was not these exotic and far-away endurance races, it was the local bike rallies of the 80' and 90's.

And here Honda stood no chance, it was a Suzuki thing all the way. :biggrin:

Try rev a Honda V4 all night and still ride home the next day....... ::)

I did once see  Kawasaki owner start his bike and rev it till he could light a cigarette on the exhaust.  He did that everytime he wanted a smoke.  I cannot tell whether he rode that home the next day.
#BB33 #BRADICAL!
#DB40 #DIVEBOMB!
#SO4 #FULLGAS!
 

Offline 2StrokeDan

  • a Man of Character
  • Worshond
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 690 Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 27,733
  • Thanked: 2646 times
  • Slim like Bill, straight like Steve
Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2021, 06:57:23 pm »
Imo, the ultimate test of reliability was not these exotic and far-away endurance races, it was the local bike rallies of the 80' and 90's.

And here Honda stood no chance, it was a Suzuki thing all the way. :biggrin:

Try rev a Honda V4 all night and still ride home the next day....... ::)

I did once see  Kawasaki owner start his bike and rev it till he could light a cigarette on the exhaust.  He did that everytime he wanted a smoke.  I cannot tell whether he rode that home the next day.


He probably did! :thumleft:
 

Offline Dux

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2021, 08:46:46 pm »
Imo, the ultimate test of reliability was not these exotic and far-away endurance races, it was the local bike rallies of the 80' and 90's.

And here Honda stood no chance, it was a Suzuki thing all the way. :biggrin:

Try rev a Honda V4 all night and still ride home the next day....... ::)

And on the Monday mornings the Suzuki guys would be phoning around looking for engines , the GS/GSX and GSXR range , all of them , not as tough as made out .
Read the book Honda V-Force , you will look at the Honda V4 VFR range in a new light , admittedly the VF750 was bit of a lemon . The SBK V4's would be run continuously on a dyno simulating a race track for 24 hours straight , the endurance bikes would be run for 48 hours straight , not a bad record
Motoworx
motoworx1@gmail.com
073 232 5389 / 065 967 4661
Unit 6 Viben square
8 Viben Road , Brackenfell
 

Offline 2StrokeDan

  • a Man of Character
  • Worshond
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 690 Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 27,733
  • Thanked: 2646 times
  • Slim like Bill, straight like Steve
Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2021, 08:56:13 pm »
Imo, the ultimate test of reliability was not these exotic and far-away endurance races, it was the local bike rallies of the 80' and 90's.

And here Honda stood no chance, it was a Suzuki thing all the way. :biggrin:

Try rev a Honda V4 all night and still ride home the next day....... ::)

And on the Monday mornings the Suzuki guys would be phoning around looking for engines , the GS/GSX and GSXR range , all of them , not as tough as made out .
Read the book Honda V-Force , you will look at the Honda V4 VFR range in a new light , admittedly the VF750 was bit of a lemon . The SBK V4's would be run continuously on a dyno simulating a race track for 24 hours straight , the endurance bikes would be run for 48 hours straight , not a bad record





Yes, but remember that those Suzuki's were not revved for 48 hours, but for months and sometimes, like in the case of Herman geldenhuys in Stellenbosch, for over two years.

Also, those Suzukis did not see the high end oils of the factory tested V4 Hondas. :biggrin:
 

Offline Dux

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2021, 09:14:12 pm »
Imo, the ultimate test of reliability was not these exotic and far-away endurance races, it was the local bike rallies of the 80' and 90's.

And here Honda stood no chance, it was a Suzuki thing all the way. :biggrin:

Try rev a Honda V4 all night and still ride home the next day....... ::)

And on the Monday mornings the Suzuki guys would be phoning around looking for engines , the GS/GSX and GSXR range , all of them , not as tough as made out .
Read the book Honda V-Force , you will look at the Honda V4 VFR range in a new light , admittedly the VF750 was bit of a lemon . The SBK V4's would be run continuously on a dyno simulating a race track for 24 hours straight , the endurance bikes would be run for 48 hours straight , not a bad record





Yes, but remember that those Suzuki's were not revved for 48 hours, but for months and sometimes, like in the case of Herman geldenhuys in Stellenbosch, for over two years.

Also, those Suzukis did not see the high end oils of the factory tested V4 Hondas. :biggrin:

Yet in my days at Craig's we constantly had demand for the GS/GSX/GSXR range of engines , if we got a good engine in then it didn't last long before it was sold . My old GPz1100 eventually came back to the shop with a conrod sticking out of the casings , mind you , at that stage it had in excess of 200 000 km on it . I bought it with 10 000 km on and sold it at 173 000 km , two owners later it threw the rod . I suppose I rode a lot at that time , and that bike spent a lot of time on the track as well .
Motoworx
motoworx1@gmail.com
073 232 5389 / 065 967 4661
Unit 6 Viben square
8 Viben Road , Brackenfell
 

Offline Dux

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2021, 09:17:01 pm »
But in World endurance racing championships Suzuki have the most , then Kawasaki , Honda and Yamaha last . Ducati not very popular there .
Motoworx
motoworx1@gmail.com
073 232 5389 / 065 967 4661
Unit 6 Viben square
8 Viben Road , Brackenfell
 

Offline sidetrack

  • Keep it real, keep it a single
  • Gentleman Dog
  • *
  • Bike: Yamaha XT 660 Z
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 15,412
  • Thanked: 556 times
Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2021, 12:38:49 pm »
Would take a real winner to kill a gear driven cam Honda V-four !
Little by little, one travels far
J.R.R Tolkien
 

Offline Dux

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2021, 12:46:20 pm »
Would take a real winner to kill a gear driven cam Honda V-four !

 :thumleft:
Motoworx
motoworx1@gmail.com
073 232 5389 / 065 967 4661
Unit 6 Viben square
8 Viben Road , Brackenfell
 

Offline 2StrokeDan

  • a Man of Character
  • Worshond
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 690 Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 27,733
  • Thanked: 2646 times
  • Slim like Bill, straight like Steve
Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2021, 08:33:41 pm »
Would take a real winner to kill a gear driven cam Honda V-four !


And since no one tried, there is no winner. :biggrin:
 

Offline Dux

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2021, 07:49:22 am »
Would take a real winner to kill a gear driven cam Honda V-four !


And since no one tried, there is no winner. :biggrin:

Trust me , those engines are tough
Motoworx
motoworx1@gmail.com
073 232 5389 / 065 967 4661
Unit 6 Viben square
8 Viben Road , Brackenfell
 

Offline Dux

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2021, 07:50:19 am »
I see that Suzuki have just won the endurance world championship
Motoworx
motoworx1@gmail.com
073 232 5389 / 065 967 4661
Unit 6 Viben square
8 Viben Road , Brackenfell
 

Offline Clockwork Orange

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2021, 08:45:56 am »
I watched the last couple of hours of the 6 Hour endurance race in the Czech republic this weekend.....what a race!! after 6 hours racing there was under 0.5 gap between 1st and 2nd over the finish line. BMW got their first ever endurance win (sorry Dan). Yamaha was second. The Yammie closed down a 50 second gap in the last 45 minutes of racing.
When in doubt...grab throttle!!!
 

Offline Dux

Re: Le Mans 24 hour - ultimate test of reliability ?
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2021, 10:08:27 am »
I watched the last couple of hours of the 6 Hour endurance race in the Czech republic this weekend.....what a race!! after 6 hours racing there was under 0.5 gap between 1st and 2nd over the finish line. BMW got their first ever endurance win (sorry Dan). Yamaha was second. The Yammie closed down a 50 second gap in the last 45 minutes of racing.

Endurance racing is lekker , if you stuff up you can still work back to overcome it , strategy plays a big role .
Motoworx
motoworx1@gmail.com
073 232 5389 / 065 967 4661
Unit 6 Viben square
8 Viben Road , Brackenfell