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Offline malcolmt

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Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« on: October 07, 2021, 01:58:56 pm »
Folks,

I've decided to part with my beloved K1100RS.
One of the ABS modulators packed up eons ago, the cost of a replacement was crazy, and by all accounts the early BMW ABS systems were nothing to brag about.
So I re-piped both brakes as a regular non-ABS model and they've work fine for a long time.
The original modulators are on the bike to cover up nasty gaps, as it the ABS computer and sensors.

My question is....Is this likely to cause problems for the new owner during the roadworthy.?
Would it be better to remove the electronics and modulator's so she looks like a non-ABS version ?

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« Last Edit: October 07, 2021, 01:59:56 pm by malcolmt »
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2021, 02:02:29 pm »
Brakes are not even actually tested during roadworthy. Only lighting etc.
Unless they disassemble your bike they also won't know if the modules are there or not.

Should not be an issue.

I only speak from my own experience, but that has been the case when doing roadworthy in Cape Town

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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2021, 02:13:12 pm »
At most they need to know the brakes work. That's it.
 
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2021, 02:23:27 pm »
Thanks Guys,

much appreciated

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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2021, 05:18:29 pm »
Brakes are not even actually tested during roadworthy. Only lighting etc.
Unless they disassemble your bike they also won't know if the modules are there or not.

Should not be an issue.

I only speak from my own experience, but that has been the case when doing roadworthy in Cape Town

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Can vouch for this.

I did my roadworthy at Stikland and they only tested my lights and horn. That was that - simple and easy.
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2021, 05:19:18 pm »
As long as there is no warning light that stays on.
 

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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2021, 05:33:00 pm »
I have done a number of bikes - ABS & Non - they have always ridden my bikes to test the brakes, but not the ABS - my X-Challenge has the ABD rings, but no ABS, never said a thing....

What I have been called out on was a tiny hairline crack in a tail light lens on a XT500, loose spokes on my XC, a missing split-pin on a rear axle nut, all fixable in short order, and bikes were passed within the day, but they were thoroughly checked - I do all mine at Dekra in Boksburg as they load it directly onto eNatis, so when you go and pay they license, its already on the system.
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2021, 06:53:11 pm »
I have done a number of bikes - ABS & Non - they have always ridden my bikes to test the brakes, but not the ABS - my X-Challenge has the ABD rings, but no ABS, never said a thing....

What I have been called out on was a tiny hairline crack in a tail light lens on a XT500, loose spokes on my XC, a missing split-pin on a rear axle nut, all fixable in short order, and bikes were passed within the day, but they were thoroughly checked - I do all mine at Dekra in Boksburg as they load it directly onto eNatis, so when you go and pay they license, its already on the system.


Dekra in Stellenbosch is also way too thorough. :biggrin:  But that is good.
 

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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 11:39:58 am »
Folks,

I've decided to part with my beloved K1100RS.
One of the ABS modulators packed up eons ago, the cost of a replacement was crazy, and by all accounts the early BMW ABS systems were nothing to brag about.
So I re-piped both brakes as a regular non-ABS model and they've work fine for a long time.
The original modulators are on the bike to cover up nasty gaps, as it the ABS computer and sensors.

My question is....Is this likely to cause problems for the new owner during the roadworthy.?
Would it be better to remove the electronics and modulator's so she looks like a non-ABS version ?

Cheers
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Only if there's a flashing warning light to that effect on the instrument cluster
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2021, 11:57:27 am »
As long as there is no warning light that stays on.

When I roadworthied my 1100s I just stuck black insulation tape over the flashing red lights. No issue.
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2021, 11:58:30 am »
In any case the ABS on that bike was more dangerous than non ABS.
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2021, 12:24:00 pm »
I passed 2 chopped up bobbers that should never have passed at the place in Wynberg :imaposer:  Some places barely know what to do if you bring a bike.
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2021, 01:49:20 pm »
I passed 2 chopped up bobbers that should never have passed at the place in Wynberg :imaposer:  Some places barely know what to do if you bring a bike.



True. Some of these "testers" hardly know their cars, let alone bikes.
 

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2021, 01:59:17 pm »
In order for the tester to properly test your bike, they need to ride it and for that they need a license.  There are not a lot of roadworthy testers that have a bike license.
I know someone who put a scooter on the back of a bakkie, took it for roadworthy and it didn't even leave the bakkie. Hooter and lights...

Maybe I can get away with Barney, just tell them Yamaha never fitted a rear brake on the XT  :imaposer:
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Re: Can a non-functional ABS affect a road worthy ?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2021, 02:27:35 pm »
In order for the tester to properly test your bike, they need to ride it and for that they need a license.  There are not a lot of roadworthy testers that have a bike license.
I know someone who put a scooter on the back of a bakkie, took it for roadworthy and it didn't even leave the bakkie. Hooter and lights...

Maybe I can get away with Barney, just tell them Yamaha never fitted a rear brake on the XT  :imaposer:

I've never allowed them to ride it, always on the back of the bakkie or trailer.  If they insist, the insurance excess must be in an envelope...