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Offline Rufus115

Beta dirtbike agents?
« on: November 01, 2021, 03:21:05 pm »
Hi

As per topic heading, does anyone know who the current active Beta agents are in RSA?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2021, 05:37:37 pm »
Beta's are part of the KTM parcel (like Husky) and are sold by some dealerships.
No idea if they also do parts for the older one's, ask them....
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2021, 05:43:05 pm »
Beta's are part of the KTM parcel (like Husky) and are sold by some dealerships.
No idea if they also do parts for the older one's, ask them....
Sure?

Beta used ktm engines early 2000s, but they niw use own engines if Iím not mistaken.

GasGas is part of the KTM stable
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2021, 06:29:01 pm »
Gas Gas is done by KTM ..as they are 80% KTMs by way of engines etc.

Beta...not to much. Used to be Cayenne Motors before they went belly up.

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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2021, 06:31:45 pm »
Google Russell Campbell.
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2021, 07:03:16 pm »
Graham Harris has the agency and brings them in for Russel Cambell. You can order through him.
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2021, 08:25:27 pm »

On my Beta 300 X trainer, I use KTM, piston, rings, small end, g/pin, base and head gasket. Russel Campbell carries some stuff. Otherwise bring in from UK.
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Offline Rufus115

Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2021, 08:52:30 pm »
Thanks for the replies.

My interest is in the Beta 200RR as my next dirt bike, curious what thelanded cost is on one.

Unfortunately none of the current 2T KTM offerings in the sub 300 range tickle my fancy.
The YZ250x is nice and light but the absence of an OEM happy button is off putting and the aftermarket add is not for me.

I will hit RCR uo and see if they do complete bikes.

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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2021, 09:10:58 pm »
Beta used ktm engines early 2000s, but they niw use own engines if Iím not mistaken.

GasGas is part of the KTM stable

Ah ja, correct - ignore my post pls!  :thumleft:
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2021, 09:13:41 pm »
All new YZ250 and 250X does have electric start IRRC ....
 

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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2021, 11:05:00 pm »
And the YZ's have by far the best suspension stock  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2021, 07:53:28 am »
All new YZ250 and 250X does have electric start IRRC ....

H - are you sure about that? The only reference I can find is the Pantera mod/kit for the two strokes.Would be great if they do come with e-start already as stock but my research says its not yet the case for the 2T's
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2021, 08:14:19 am »
All new YZ250 and 250X does have electric start IRRC ....

H - are you sure about that? The only reference I can find is the Pantera mod/kit for the two strokes.Would be great if they do come with e-start already as stock but my research says its not yet the case for the 2T's

Sorry you right, it is the 250F's that was replaced by electric start only and no more kick-start ....
 

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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2021, 08:30:27 am »
Graham Harris is the Beta importer into SA for trials and enduro bikes.

We (Kobus Potgieter and I) trading as Motolife/Madass are the WC Beta agents for trials and Enduro
Moving forward we will be concentrating on the Enduro market in SA

We managed to only get allocated 3 Enduro bikes from Beta Italy for 2022.
These are 2 x 300RR Enduro bikes and 1 x 300Xtrianer (in between a trials bike and an enduro bike)
1 of the 300RR's has been presold to a JHB client, and the other RR and the XTrainer will be our bikes in Cape town.
We - working with Graham - are in the process of trying to grow the relationship with Beta in Italy - to be able to get a larger allocation bikes for Southern Africa.
The lockdown has (alledgedly) had an effect on the supply of bikes (we also have other vehicles ordered delayed so I think there is truth in this...)
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Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2021, 10:56:05 am »
Thanks Happy Ending.

My 2c...the xtrainer not so lekker. Suspension really feels kak on the one I rode. Bring that 200rr in and I will be in the front of the line and will move on from my KTM 200 relationship that is now three bikes and 12 years old.....

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Offline CliveG

Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2021, 07:41:24 pm »

My Beta 300 X trainer is fitted with KTM forks and Fox shox, made a huge difference. The X trainer is a 10% smaller bike than the normal 300 and not a in between enduro and trials bike. I have had 7 Beta trials bikes.
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Offline Rufus115

Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2021, 09:29:07 am »

My Beta 300 X trainer is fitted with KTM forks and Fox shox, made a huge difference. The X trainer is a 10% smaller bike than the normal 300 and not a in between enduro and trials bike. I have had 7 Beta trials bikes.

Thanks CLive, I bet its a weapon in the gnarly stuff now. I bet more of them would have been sold had their suspension been better out the box.
I am no pro (far from it) but riding the same loose rocky decent back to back with my 2016 KTM 200, it was worlds scarier on the XT and this was echoed by another rider of same talent who was on the KTM 150.

Either way, this is not an XT bashing thread, rather, I am trying to see if that 200rr is out there as an option for my next bike.
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Offline HERB

Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2021, 02:40:03 pm »
Beta used ktm engines early 2000s, but they niw use own engines if Iím not mistaken.

GasGas is part of the KTM stable

Ah ja, correct - ignore my post pls!  :thumleft:

Definitely ignore his post above. :-[
 

Offline CliveG

Re: Beta dirtbike agents?
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2021, 07:40:33 pm »

Rufus, I agree with you. the standard forks have one spring in one fork, no adjustable compression damping and just a bit of adjustable rebound. The bike I had before was a new 2015 KTM 200. Going down step offs, got out of control. Beta has a design your own bike, where you choose what forks, shox, etc you want. Pity there no real agent.
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