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Project:21 inch GS adventure front - tested on the mud monster
« on: February 18, 2009, 06:36:23 pm »
What a project!  I decide I want a 21 inch for my adventure front, cause in the words of my erstwhile riding buddie Pierre "you use it like an MX bike!"

A wunderlich conversion will cost R 25 000 odd and includes a new crown (the bit that the suspension and mud flap bolt onto on the forks) a new brake pipe cause the old one goes through the crown a new rim and tyre.

TOO much but surely there are alternatives!!!

So I speak to Gert who does the two finger clutch and brake lever.  Yes he can manufacture the crown for R 3.5 k odd but I must find a 21 inch rim!

So I talk to BM - yes I can get a HP 2 rim but its R 14 k and I will need to put on the adventure hub which is a two disc hub! And new it costs R 14 k odd with the HP2 hub.  So I phone around best i can get is a second hand hp 2 rim for R 12k! 

Ok second option an excel rim tube rim!  Still expensive and I have to find someone to weave on the new spokes!

Back to the internet and I find this guy on Adv rider, apparently a hot ex enduro racer!  He says no you don't need a crown or anything just put it straight on... preferably without the mudflap! I mail him, whats it like?  Look here's my bike he says! 



ITs fantastic on sand and rocks but he rides in the desert so he can't comment about the mud! Whats more he swops back and forth between the standard 19 and the 21 depending on his ride!  Yeah and just call Woodys Wheel Works. 

Shit i decide so I'll try it without the crown and stuff and if I need to make up a new mud flap so be it!

Back and forth to Woodys and sure they can do a tubeless, black rim, 21 inch with dual disc fitment and send it to me for R 10k!

Cheaper than anything in SA second hand!!!!!

So my rim arrives next week and I'm like a kid waiting for christmas!  Now I need a tyre for this!  Adventurer a heidenau?







« Last Edit: March 17, 2009, 04:43:58 pm by GG »
 

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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 06:45:48 pm »
freaking ace dude! keep us updated.
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 06:48:51 pm »
Heck this is going to be exciting !!! Watch out the KYties  :mwink:
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 07:14:59 pm »
Now that would be nice, it looks like the bike has more ground clearance or he might have fitted ADV shocks.

Why, ooo, why in the name of all Allah, do they have to price a HP2 rim at R14K? For FFS, why not charge R20k or R30k for the damn thing?  :patch: 

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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 07:27:06 pm »
What a project!  I decide I want a 21 inch for my adventure front, cause in the words of my erstwhile riding buddie Pierre "you use it like an MX bike!"

A wunderlich conversion will cost R 25 000 odd and includes a new crown (the bit that the suspension and mud flap bolt onto on the forks) a new brake pipe cause the old one goes through the crown a new rim and tyre.

TOO much but surely there are alternatives!!!

So I speak to Gert who does the two finger clutch and brake lever.  Yes he can manufacture the crown for R 3.5 k odd but I must find a 21 inch rim!

So I talk to BM - yes I can get a HP 2 rim but its R 14 k and I will need to put on the adventure hub which is a two disc hub! And new it costs R 14 k odd with the HP2 hub.  So I phone around best i can get is a second hand hp 2 rim for R 12k! 

Ok second option an excel rim tube rim!  Still expensive and I have to find someone to weave on the new spokes!

Back to the internet and I find this guy on Adv rider, apparently a hot ex enduro racer!  He says no you don't need a crown or anything just put it straight on... preferably without the mudflap! I mail him, whats it like?  Look here's my bike he says! 



ITs fantastic on sand and rocks but he rides in the desert so he can't comment about the mud! Whats more he swops back and forth between the standard 19 and the 21 depending on his ride!  Yeah and just call Woodys Wheel Works. 

Shit i decide so I'll try it without the crown and stuff and if I need to make up a new mud flap so be it!

Back and forth to Woodys and sure they can do a tubeless, black rim, 21 inch with dual disc fitment and send it to me for R 10k!

Cheaper than anything in SA second hand!!!!!

So my rim arrives next week and I'm like a kid waiting for christmas!  Now I need a tyre for this!  Adventurer a heidenau?









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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 07:35:13 pm »
I built a 21' wheel for Camojo on the forum for his camo 1150, but it is not tubeless and it cost about R5k.I can lace that wheel.
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 07:36:07 pm »
Why am I grinning like Freddy Krueger........... >:D
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 07:40:10 pm »
Awesome GG  :thumleft:
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 07:43:05 pm »
Why am I grinning like Freddy Krueger........... >:D

Plus 1, was Freddy a polititian?
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 07:44:41 pm »
I understood GG to infer that Woody wood suply the wheel and dubble disc'd hub ready-laced...?

I also heard that "normal" lacing techniques will not work with the cross-over tubeless spoke pattern, and that it needs a special centering jig? Why this should be so, I have not the faintest idea.

This looks like a fantastic innovation! Heck, I would like to see it in the flesh!  :thumleft:
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 07:54:46 pm »
I understood GG to infer that Woody wood suply the wheel and dubble disc'd hub ready-laced...?

I also heard that "normal" lacing techniques will not work with the cross-over tubeless spoke pattern, and that it needs a special centering jig? Why this should be so, I have not the faintest idea.

This looks like a fantastic innovation! Heck, I would like to see it in the flesh!  :thumleft:

Nope, I did not undurstand it like that at all?
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 08:24:30 pm »
That bike just looks right with that size wheel, man!
 

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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 07:07:06 am »
Why am I grinning like Freddy Krueger........... >:D

Plus 1, was Freddy a polititian?

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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 07:17:35 am »
I built a 21' wheel for Camojo on the forum for his camo 1150, but it is not tubeless and it cost about R5k.I can lace that wheel.

I have seen Camojo's bike and front conversion - great job :thumleft:
 

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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 07:19:30 am »
nice conversion !!!
 

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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009, 08:16:59 am »
nice conversion !!!

 For a moment I thought you said Rice conversion.

"racing induced cosmetic equipment" like the KTM's oke's add to their Race Ready machines.  :biggrin:
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2009, 08:18:58 am »
Woody's supply rim and hub for R 10 k ready laced!  Which beats getting a HP2 one and having to lace my old hub onto it.  This way I have two complete wheels and can swop over relativelly easily!

Michnus, search under MJS posts on advrider and you can PM him re the suspension but on his bike I understand he put a larger wheel on the back as well!  To 18 inch I think.  
 

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2009, 12:34:13 pm »
There was a 1200 riding with me on Saturday with a 21" front wheel. It had a yellow anodized lower triple clamp. PM Freakonaleash, he will know the oke.

When I was at Fidel's Waterjet Technologies some time ago he showed me a tripleclamp he had just made for a 21" conversion. Was not yet anodized but could be the same one.
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Re: Project:21 inch GS adventure front
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2009, 12:48:00 pm »
Woody's supply rim and hub for R 10 k ready laced!  Which beats getting a HP2 one and having to lace my old hub onto it.  This way I have two complete wheels and can swop over relativelly easily!

Michnus, search under MJS posts on advrider and you can PM him re the suspension but on his bike I understand he put a larger wheel on the back as well!  To 18 inch I think.  

Good to hear, and good on you for not taking the shafting from some local rip off artists. Woodys has a great reputation.
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