Author Topic: 1200GS losing spark!! and the tik tik sound (Read 5118 times)

Eisbein · « **Reply #100 on:** March 04, 2009, 04:52:05 pm »

Quote from: Joyride on March 04, 2009, 04:48:42 pm

CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.

Die boxer se spieëls is 'n goeie 'health check' op die engine.
So gou as wat dinge in die rear view mirror meer blurry begin raak, dan weet jy die engine is ongelukkig...

Captain Zef · « **Reply #101 on:** March 04, 2009, 04:55:20 pm »

Quote from: Eisbein on March 04, 2009, 04:52:05 pm

Quote from: Joyride on March 04, 2009, 04:48:42 pm
CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.

Die boxer se spieëls is 'n goeie 'health check' op die engine.
So gou as wat dinge in die rear view mirror meer blurry begin raak, dan weet jy die engine is ongelukkig...

Met 'n KLR is dit anders om...

buzzlightyear · « **Reply #102 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:01:07 pm »

Quote from: Captain Slow on March 04, 2009, 04:55:20 pm

Quote from: Eisbein on March 04, 2009, 04:52:05 pm
Quote from: Joyride on March 04, 2009, 04:48:42 pm
CS, kry 'n Ipod en goeie headset. Luister die musiek so hard as moontlik en begin worry eers as die bike gaan staan.

Die boxer se spieëls is 'n goeie 'health check' op die engine.
So gou as wat dinge in die rear view mirror meer blurry begin raak, dan weet jy die engine is ongelukkig...

Met 'n KLR is dit anders om...

Ja, as die spieels nie blur nie is die enjin dood.

Captain Zef · « **Reply #103 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:03:52 pm »

ktmmer · « **Reply #104 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:46:56 pm »

Ek sweer hulle het KTM plugs ingesit

Paulsky · « **Reply #105 on:** March 04, 2009, 07:12:25 pm »

I told you come to the dark side, you know you want to

Captain Zef · « **Reply #106 on:** March 04, 2009, 07:47:19 pm »

Quote from: Paulsky on March 04, 2009, 07:12:25 pm

I told you come to the dark side, you know you want to

No jinne Paul KTM engine will have me biting the little bit of nail i have left...

TK-Ten · « **Reply #107 on:** March 04, 2009, 08:37:24 pm »

Ons hoop so.... ek sal hom een of ander tyd invat sodat hulle die software kan update.
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Captain , is jy seker dis nie jou anti-virus program wat 'n update kort nie ?

GEE-SH · « **Reply #108 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:10:40 am »

Hou op worry - die boxers maak so, dit is wat hulle so spesiaal maak - elke boxer motor het n persoonlikheid. Die getikkery is normaal.

KiLRoy · « **Reply #109 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:08:22 am »

Ek kan eerlik nie dink die getikkery is normaal nie, moet setting issues of spark issues wees. Die bike respond ook nie wanneer ek afgear (veral 3 na 2 en 2 na 1) en die throttle blip nie. Partykeer is daar net niks nie (veral as ek dit bietjie oopgemaak het) en 3 of 4 keer het die bike al gevrek - dis donners gevaarlik dan, veral op gravel. My feeling is that its running lean - and maybe have spark issues. Sorry, this pinging or tikkking wil bug me forever, I can't just live with it. It makes me not trusting the bike, even if its mental.

Only way I would guess - is to have a fully analysis on the machines at the next (40k) service??

H

GEE-SH · « **Reply #110 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:55:12 am »

Quote from: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 11:08:22 am

Ek kan eerlik nie dink die getikkery is normaal nie, moet setting issues of spark issues wees. Die bike respond ook nie wanneer ek afgear (veral 3 na 2 en 2 na 1) en die throttle blip nie. Partykeer is daar net niks nie (veral as ek dit bietjie oopgemaak het) en 3 of 4 keer het die bike al gevrek - dis donners gevaarlik dan, veral op gravel. My feeling is that its running lean - and maybe have spark issues. Sorry, this pinging or tikkking wil bug me forever, I can't just live with it. It makes me not trusting the bike, even if its mental.

Only way I would guess - is to have a fully analysis on the machines at the next (40k) service??

H

The main, causes of the tik-tik-tik sounds on a healthy engine are either the injectors which are suposed to do it, as they need to open and close or the tappits - the old saying comes to mind "a noisy tappit is a happy tappit" the moment you can not hear any tappit tik-tik-tik-tik the setting is wrong which means the it might be possible that the tappits do not close fully which directly results in burnt tappits.

If you have a fuel injected car hold your ear near die injectors or the tappit cover, you will hear the tik-tik-tik. Or go by a Bosch agent and have alook and listen at the injectors that are tested on a test bench.

KiLRoy · « **Reply #111 on:** March 05, 2009, 12:18:16 pm »

Checked the tappets - its fine. The tik-tik is not as in a sound the tappets made, its got a electric sound it it, much like an electric fence or when a steel pipe runs down a wire on a foefie slide, but fast intermittently....if you know what I mean. Closer to a pinging sound than a tappet sound.

hope i make sense

Captain Zef · « **Reply #112 on:** March 05, 2009, 12:21:50 pm »

Its a tik tik with a crackle sounds inbetween.....

Funny that the ex KLR riders hear these things

GEE-SH · « **Reply #113 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:13:51 pm »

Quote from: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 12:18:16 pm

Checked the tappets - its fine. The tik-tik is not as in a sound the tappets made, its got a electric sound it it, much like an electric fence or when a steel pipe runs down a wire on a foefie slide, but fast intermittently....if you know what I mean. Closer to a pinging sound than a tappet sound.

hope i make sense

It sounds like it is losing spark - hahahaha.

If it is losing spark, start the engine in a garage that is totally dark, if it is losing spark you will see the little blue miniature lightning bolts dancing on the plug leads, coil, or plug heads. The only problem is to turn the headlight of the GS off, if it is the same as the 1200GS there is a way to do it, I've read it somewhere on the net. (easiest way is to pull plug out to the HL Globe(s) my 2c's

LeonDude · « **Reply #114 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:16:40 pm »

Quote from: GEE-SH on March 05, 2009, 01:13:51 pm

Quote from: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 12:18:16 pm
Checked the tappets - its fine. The tik-tik is not as in a sound the tappets made, its got a electric sound it it, much like an electric fence or when a steel pipe runs down a wire on a foefie slide, but fast intermittently....if you know what I mean. Closer to a pinging sound than a tappet sound.

hope i make sense

It sounds like it is losing spark - hahahaha.

If it is losing spark, start the engine in a garage that is totally dark, if it is losing spark you will see the little blue miniature lightning bolts dancing on the plug leads, coil, or plug heads. The only problem is to turn the headlight of the GS off, if it is the same as the 1200GS there is a way to do it, I've read it somewhere on the net. (easiest way is to pull plug out to the HL Globe(s) my 2c's

And don't kill yourself by running the engine in an enclosed space for too long. Those russian brides will never get over it.

TK-Ten · « **Reply #115 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:18:07 pm »

Quote from: Captain Slow on March 05, 2009, 12:21:50 pm

Its a tik tik with a crackle sounds inbetween.....

Funny that the ex KLR riders hear these things

" Crackle sound " ? Maybe there is Rice Crispies in your oil !

Kaboef · « **Reply #116 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:19:36 pm »

Quote from: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 11:08:22 am

Ek kan eerlik nie dink die getikkery is normaal nie, moet setting issues of spark issues wees. Die bike respond ook nie wanneer ek afgear (veral 3 na 2 en 2 na 1) en die throttle blip nie. Partykeer is daar net niks nie (veral as ek dit bietjie oopgemaak het) en 3 of 4 keer het die bike al gevrek - dis donners gevaarlik dan, veral op gravel. My feeling is that its running lean - and maybe have spark issues. Sorry, this pinging or tikkking wil bug me forever, I can't just live with it. It makes me not trusting the bike, even if its mental.

Only way I would guess - is to have a fully analysis on the machines at the next (40k) service??

H

Hein, dit klink my my soos fuelling issues.
Idle die bike reg?

As dit spark was sou dit heeltyd gebeur het. Laat die throttle bodies syncronize, en maak al jou sensors skoon (al daai klomp kak op die throttle bodies en airbox).

'n Airflow sensor is 'n bliksem. As dit moet, leen iemand anders sin, sit hom in jou bike, en gaan ry die kak uit hom uit. Kyk of hy dit nogsteeds doen.

Maar laat jou throttle bodies syncronize. Dit maak genuine 'n moerse verskil.

KiLRoy · « **Reply #117 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:15:23 pm »

Throttle bodies is gesync - bike idle vir my 'n bietjie laag en soek heeltyd choke om te start. Dink nogsteeds dit run lean?? Met KLR was dit maklik - 1/2 draai op die skroef - met die ding is dit sensors en kak....??

Adventurer · « **Reply #118 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:35:40 pm »

Quote from: KiLRoy on March 05, 2009, 05:15:23 pm

Throttle bodies is gesync - bike idle vir my 'n bietjie laag en soek heeltyd choke om te start. Dink nogsteeds dit run lean?? Met KLR was dit maklik - 1/2 draai op die skroef - met die ding is dit sensors en kak....??

There are fuel enrichment adjusting screws on your throttle bodies, but you must know how to mess around with them.

Captain Zef · « **Reply #119 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:01:31 pm »

My bike is gecheck vanaand.... alles is reg....

Ek is maar net vol kak