Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register

Author Topic: SA tour in june  (Read 3585 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline darkhelmet

  • Pack Dog
  • **
  • Bike: Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 241
    • Bas in Africa blog
SA tour in june
« on: March 16, 2009, 11:06:53 pm »
From the 6th till the 26th of June I'll be in SA for a bike trip by myself.

I will rent a BMW F650GS from Samatours in Pretoria and start touring on monday the 8th of June.
I have no experience yet with non-tarmac roads, but I'm not shy of a bit of gravel  ;)

Since I haven't been to South Africa before, I hope you guys can give me some tips for the tour (maybe even GPS coordinates, waypoints and POIs  ::) )

The plan is roughly for the 18 days I have: Pretoria -> Mpumalanga -> Swaziland -> KZN -> Lesotho -> Eastern Cape -> Western Cape (CT) -> Northern Cape back to Pretoria by Highway in max 3 days

I know I'll be putting out a lot of kilometers a day. But between 300 and 400 I think is doable for me.
Of course plans are there to change, so for example if the weather is letting me down, I'll reroute
 Are the mountains in Western & Eastern Cape doable in june? Is it constant rain or could it very well be dry for the most of the time?
All the best parts (Passes and Kloofs) people tell me and I read about seem to be in the Eastern/Western Cape...

So let me know what you think :)
 

Offline Horsepower

  • Ou Hond:):)
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1100GS
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 1,237
    • mororradadventures
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 12:10:50 am »
hi,
you are taking on a huge challenge that could be potentially very dangerous if you have no experience and are alone on the route! what I suggest is that you find yourself a guide or do very good research before you ride dirt on your own.
I don't want to discourage you from the ride I think its great!!
if you need some help a-mail me at info@motorradadventures.com

Offline darkhelmet

  • Pack Dog
  • **
  • Bike: Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 241
    • Bas in Africa blog
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 12:38:52 am »
Thanks for your reply.

Well it's not entirely true I have no experience.
I've driven light motorcycles on dirt roads before in Senegal and Thailand. Especially Thailand was not 'novice' at all, with very steep climbs and decents, rocky roads, slippery dusty tracks etc. I even did some on very wobbly scooters with my girlfriend on the back  ::)

I've already spend a fair amount of time on research.

For the passes I plan to take, I'll gather information about the level on this forum. The hardest will probably be the Sani Pass, the rest is novice or tarmac.
But thanks for the warning. I'll take every pass under cafefull consideration and make sure to calculate some extra time for each unpaved road I plan on taking.

 

Online Welsh

  • BMW R1150GSV
  • Gentleman Dog
  • *
  • Bike: BMW R1150GS
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 19,655
  • Thanked: 888 times
  • Thunder Twonk. The two legged Twat Monkey.
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 05:44:32 am »
I trust you understand, it will also be early winter, some of the passes can be unpleasant if a cold front comes through.

Welsh
The guys say they can do a Pistol on their 3D printer, not impressed I have had a Canon printer for years.
 

Offline darkhelmet

  • Pack Dog
  • **
  • Bike: Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 241
    • Bas in Africa blog
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2009, 09:28:10 am »
The routes I chose are based on tours advertised by touring companies. They are noted as suitable for all riders and easy gravel.

I'll try to post the route I'm planning to take maybe you've got some route suggestions.

And when at a pass, I'll carefully consider when I ask around locally. I think i'll drop the Sani and Lesotho all together.
And perhaps see if I can hook up with some other riders.



« Last Edit: March 17, 2009, 09:41:05 am by darkhelmet »
 

Offline >>Thump°C

Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2009, 10:19:19 am »
when you have your route, send it through.
You may well find WD's happy to accompany or give info on the sections in their area.
It can get a bit cold in June with morning frost in the inland areas, but not as bad as European winters.
Boys will be Boys.
And girls are darn thankful for that
 

Offline Rooies

Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 11:29:01 am »
Your plan sounds great!
Go for it  :thumleft:

And keep us updated.  You might find a Dog or two along the way to keep you company...
Current:     BMW R1150GS -> "Die Waterbuffel"
                  Honda XR650L
Previous:   BMW R1200GSA
                  Honda XL700V
 

Offline Horsepower

  • Ou Hond:):)
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1100GS
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 1,237
    • mororradadventures
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 07:49:41 pm »
keep us  updated, i am sure the  members will  help!!

one more  sugggestion is to take ore rent a sat phone as there is no cell reception  on most off the gravel routes inn this country, if you are alone its essential!

Offline darkhelmet

  • Pack Dog
  • **
  • Bike: Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 241
    • Bas in Africa blog
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 09:58:48 pm »
keep us  updated, i am sure the  members will  help!!

one more  sugggestion is to take ore rent a sat phone as there is no cell reception  on most off the gravel routes inn this country, if you are alone its essential!

OK, I'll look into that.

What mobile telecom companies are there in SA? I was planning on getting me a prepaid SIM card. I've done this before in countries where it hardly cost anything.
 

Offline Plothond

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 1090 Adventure R
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 4,904
  • Thanked: 5 times
  • I was powerslide pozer KING & TV personality
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 10:22:14 pm »
mmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Sat phone ?
After riding extensively throughout the country, I have yet to battle with cellphone reception
Granted, there are "non-covered" area's - but not enough to warrant the cost of a SAT phone

Prepaid sim is fine - it will work well
Look us up when you get here - Pretoria is our valley and we know lots of routes and have a number of suggested area's you can visit.
I grew up in the Mpumulanga area and can help you out there as well

If you do travel alone - heed the advice of the locals in an area - it can be dangerous if you run into trouble and are not "local savvy"

You can get a prepaid card just about anywhere

June is cold in the central parts. Mpumulanga will be relatively pleasant
« Last Edit: March 17, 2009, 10:24:28 pm by Plothond »
I used to be indecisive, but I'm not so sure anymore

The butcher backed into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work
 

Offline darkhelmet

  • Pack Dog
  • **
  • Bike: Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 241
    • Bas in Africa blog
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2009, 11:51:17 am »
mmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Sat phone ?
After riding extensively throughout the country, I have yet to battle with cellphone reception
Granted, there are "non-covered" area's - but not enough to warrant the cost of a SAT phone

Prepaid sim is fine - it will work well
Look us up when you get here - Pretoria is our valley and we know lots of routes and have a number of suggested area's you can visit.
I grew up in the Mpumulanga area and can help you out there as well

If you do travel alone - heed the advice of the locals in an area - it can be dangerous if you run into trouble and are not "local savvy"

You can get a prepaid card just about anywhere

June is cold in the central parts. Mpumulanga will be relatively pleasant

Indeed, I looked up the costs of a satphone.  :o

Lot's af warnings is what i notice. , since you're all locals I'll take notice.
My planning is ambitious I know, I'ts just that I'm exited and there's lot's to see!

Maybe I'm naive or ignorant, since I'm from the "innocent and safe" Netherlands. I've travelled all over Europe, SouthEast Asia, Senegal/Gambia and never felt really unsafe or was able to avoid situations. I never considered South Africa as unsafe (apart from J'burg), since it's a very popular destination for a holiday...

 

Online Welsh

  • BMW R1150GSV
  • Gentleman Dog
  • *
  • Bike: BMW R1150GS
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 19,655
  • Thanked: 888 times
  • Thunder Twonk. The two legged Twat Monkey.
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2009, 01:22:45 pm »
mmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Sat phone ?
After riding extensively throughout the country, I have yet to battle with cellphone reception
Granted, there are "non-covered" area's - but not enough to warrant the cost of a SAT phone

Prepaid sim is fine - it will work well
Look us up when you get here - Pretoria is our valley and we know lots of routes and have a number of suggested area's you can visit.
I grew up in the Mpumulanga area and can help you out there as well

If you do travel alone - heed the advice of the locals in an area - it can be dangerous if you run into trouble and are not "local savvy"

You can get a prepaid card just about anywhere

June is cold in the central parts. Mpumulanga will be relatively pleasant

So you know my Ex June? I dont know anyone called Mpumalanga but she sounds nice?
The guys say they can do a Pistol on their 3D printer, not impressed I have had a Canon printer for years.
 

Offline stutut

  • Puppy
  • *
  • Bike: Kawasaki KLR 650
    Location: Kwazulu Natal
  • Posts: 23
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2009, 04:30:38 pm »
Hey Dark Helmet

I see part of your route goes through Lesotho which is great as it is one if the last gravel frontiers ... I want to suggest that you incorporate Pietermaritzburg (in KZN) in your travel plans and then head for Lesotho as there are some guys (those with a bark and without) who would be more than willing to ride with you, at least part of the route. 
The journey IS the destination
 

Online IceCreamMan

  • Pawn star
  • Grey hound
  • ****
  • Bike: Honda XR125L
    Location: United Kingdom
  • Posts: 7,080
  • Thanked: 1307 times
  • Actually its a Honda MT5
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2009, 04:40:23 pm »
Hey darkhelemt , will u have time for beer?
Born to lose, live to win!!
 

Offline darkhelmet

  • Pack Dog
  • **
  • Bike: Honda XRV 750 Africa Twin
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 241
    • Bas in Africa blog
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2009, 05:56:00 pm »
Hey darkhelemt , will u have time for beer?

Sure, if you have any in SA...  ;D
 

Online Welsh

  • BMW R1150GSV
  • Gentleman Dog
  • *
  • Bike: BMW R1150GS
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 19,655
  • Thanked: 888 times
  • Thunder Twonk. The two legged Twat Monkey.
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2009, 07:05:33 pm »
Hey darkhelemt , will u have time for beer?

Sure, if you have any in SA...  ;D

Ask for Zamalek, right places Euro 0,6 for 750ml.
The guys say they can do a Pistol on their 3D printer, not impressed I have had a Canon printer for years.
 

Disselboom

  • Guest
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2009, 07:07:02 pm »
Hey darkhelemt , will u have time for beer?

Sure, if you have any in SA...  ;D

Sacrilege! We are infamous for beer consumption!
 

Offline Pistonpete

  • Shop Mods
  • Gentleman Dog
  • *
  • Bike: KTM 990 Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 17,868
  • Thanked: 82 times
  • Live to Ride...Ride to Live
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2009, 07:42:07 pm »
DH, when you swing past the Western Cape look us up & we can see who's doing what when. There are sure to be options for a linga longa :)
PP
'Routine is the thief of time'
 

Offline Plothond

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 1090 Adventure R
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 4,904
  • Thanked: 5 times
  • I was powerslide pozer KING & TV personality
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2009, 07:45:43 pm »
mmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Sat phone ?
After riding extensively throughout the country, I have yet to battle with cellphone reception
Granted, there are "non-covered" area's - but not enough to warrant the cost of a SAT phone

Prepaid sim is fine - it will work well
Look us up when you get here - Pretoria is our valley and we know lots of routes and have a number of suggested area's you can visit.
I grew up in the Mpumulanga area and can help you out there as well

If you do travel alone - heed the advice of the locals in an area - it can be dangerous if you run into trouble and are not "local savvy"

You can get a prepaid card just about anywhere

June is cold in the central parts. Mpumulanga will be relatively pleasant

So you know my Ex June? I dont know anyone called Mpumalanga but she sounds nice?

Interesting !!!  8)  -What were her other parts like  ???
« Last Edit: March 20, 2009, 07:47:21 pm by Plothond »
I used to be indecisive, but I'm not so sure anymore

The butcher backed into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work
 

Offline chicco

  • Grey hound
  • ****
  • Bike: KTM 990 Adventure
    Location: Other
  • Posts: 6,074
  • Thanked: 460 times
  • Never give up.
Re: SA tour in june
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2009, 07:49:54 pm »
DH, from Swaziland to Durban I could help you out with routes and accomodation if needed. I know a couple of interesting routes ,on and off , pm me if you need help or assistance. :thumleft:
KLR650, KTM 950, KTM 950S, KTM 990, KTM 990S, KTM 990R