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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2009, 04:45:00 pm »
MMM, i think you all talking k@rk and is competing for the wooden spoon :)
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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2009, 04:47:23 pm »
I rated the 800 very highly, but recently I've heard from 3 different 800 owners that the suspension is up to shit. One calling it "lewens gevaarlik op 'n grondpad".

What do the other 800 owners think? Especially guys that ride a lot like Wolweseun?

"lewens gevaarlik op grondpad" I would venture to say if a blanket statement like that by a person who owns/owned one is most bizarre, either he's going to fast, lack of ability of something wrong with his tires. I owned a 650twin and did some gravel roads and never ever did I feel "my lewe is in gevaar" and thats only the 650 with mags and lesser suspension!
I would be interested to hear what this person thought made the bike so gevaarlik and what he rides now? I personally think it a great bike and can do most things that I would want to do ie. gravel roads of varying degree of difficulty. I would not suggest that it could do Erzberg, but then most "adventure dual bikes" would fail. 
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2009, 04:47:33 pm »
WWBR?
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2009, 04:51:12 pm »
I think the biggest problem we sit with most brands expecially the well known ones is that they get marketed in such a way and lifted up above any other brand on the market at a specific time we as Bikers get caught up in all the Hype and salestalk that when these bikes do not live up to OUR expectations and what the marketing of them promised us --we are Pissed off.

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2009, 04:54:20 pm »
I think the biggest problem we sit with most brands expecially the well known ones is that they get marketed in such a way and lifted up above any other brand on the market at a specific time we as Bikers get caught up in all the Hype and salestalk that when these bikes do not live up to OUR expectations and what the marketing of them promised us --we are Pissed off.

Has happened to a few bikes i have owned in my life.


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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2009, 04:54:25 pm »
I think the biggest problem we sit with most brands expecially the well known ones is that they get marketed in such a way and lifted up above any other brand on the market at a specific time we as Bikers get caught up in all the Hype and salestalk that when these bikes do not live up to OUR expectations and what the marketing of them promised us --we are Pissed off.

Has happened to a few bikes i have owned in my life.

blazes what you say is true for noobs but you and trailrider are talking about biking gods - people that know their stuff - surely they should know the difference between hype and shyte

so if the bike is shyte then the bike is shyte - if everyone come to this conclusion i hope to pick one up for cheap cheap  :ricky:
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2009, 05:00:43 pm »
We're missing the point now a bit.

I said that I heard 3 people complaining about the bike in a short stretch of time. There are a lot of 800's on the forum so I asked the question to try and gauge if it's a common complaint or if the majority of 800 riders are satisfied.
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2009, 05:02:26 pm »
i think i know what the problem is...

a bmw is not a ktm - buying a bmw does not mean you can ride - while buying a ktm makes you a riding god by association  :lamer:
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2009, 05:03:08 pm »
So far none have responded........ ??? except Michnus of course....  :mwink:
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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2009, 05:04:22 pm »
So far none have responded........ ??? except Michnus of course....  :mwink:

Ja but what does Michnus know. No-one takes a mopkop seriously ;D
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2009, 05:04:55 pm »
Blazes what happens in the Waterberge?
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2009, 05:11:35 pm »
I have to come to learn most internet jockey's and some very verbal people know shit, and sell their 'lewens gevaarlik" stories and reviews of bikes off as if they have the skills and experience of Jan Staal and Alfie cox, just to find out afterwards, it is newbies, that's not used to 260mm forks diving under braking, so take everything with a lot of salt and go make up your own mind with a lekker long test ride.  8)

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Michnus the person I quoted is a very very experienced rider and he is well known in motorcycle circles. He's done cross continent trips and is about to embark on another. He bought the 800 specifically for this trip, but now he's opting for a 640 instead.

From lewens gevaarlik to most unreliable, and you rate that?  ;)

Kom nou TR, the 800 is not even close to lewens gevaarlik, what in heavens name with so many around makes a guy shoots his mouth off to that extend?
How many 800 has had accidents because it was lewens gevaarlik for somebody to can make such a claim?

Exactly what I said, be care full to listen and take stuff people preach as gospel.

I agree. T'was the same with the few Toyota Fortuners that fell and all of a sudd it was the worst thing since Dacia.
One person say something and another accelarates it out off context.
But, as always, some Mackies knows better than the best paid engineers designing and building bikes. My 2c.
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2009, 05:12:19 pm »
So far none have responded........ ??? except Michnus of course....  :mwink:

Ja but what does Michnus know. No-one takes a mopkop seriously ;D

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blazes what you say is true for noobs but you and trailrider are talking about biking gods - people that know their stuff - surely they should know the difference between hype and shyte
so if the bike is shyte then the bike is shyte -

Blazes it's not the hype that is the problem it is just plain unqualified opinions people share that's the problem.
Most bikes are up to the task, even the KLR and that bike in the company of the new generation bikes is a dinosaur. But people love the bike and it does what they want, easy and with no fuss.  Except when it vibrates it's own protection bits to pieces.  :biggrin:
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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2009, 05:16:52 pm »
I think the biggest problem we sit with most brands expecially the well known ones is that they get marketed in such a way and lifted up above any other brand on the market at a specific time we as Bikers get caught up in all the Hype and salestalk that when these bikes do not live up to OUR expectations and what the marketing of them promised us --we are Pissed off.

Has happened to a few bikes i have owned in my life.


maybe you lack abillity :pot: :laughing4: :3some: :ricky: :imaposer:
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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2009, 05:19:58 pm »
A KLR cant do 200km/h on gravel ;D So maybe the KLR suspension is suited to the ability / purpose of the bike.
(not saying the 800 aren't)
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2009, 05:21:56 pm »
Blazes what happens in the Waterberge?
I have been asked NOT to post the pics of the two bikes mentioned falling all over the place in the thick sand. The one 800 owner who is Not a forum member bought a KTM Duke. seems he is cured and on the road to recovery As for the rest---maybe it should just stay in the Waterberg--
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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2009, 05:25:16 pm »
Blazes what happens in the Waterberge?
I have been asked NOT to post the pics of the two bikes mentioned falling all over the place in the thick sand. The one 800 owner who is Not a forum member bought a KTM Duke. seems he is cured and on the road to recovery As for the rest---maybe it should just stay in the Waterberg--

now i know your talking k@k going from a 800gs to a duke thats like going from a land cruiser to a pt cruiser  :ricky:
 

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2009, 05:30:57 pm »
When you (Blazes) going again to the Waterberge, pm me I am coming, then join me on Sani, and then we do the 4 passes between here and Newcastle, all on gravel, but first lets do Waterberge I would luv to see this omen myself ;D
Maybe afterwards I will buy the other guys 800's, you need to get accustomed to the suspension setup, set it up right and you can go balls to the wall..., but yea I cannot ride bikes at all, I only ride very slowly on gravel.... and sand
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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2009, 05:34:04 pm »
Yeeee, a new fight, last one was Lito and Shark with Oom whatever se klip.  :thumleft:

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Re: Are You SURE you want to keep your BMW 800GS?????
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2009, 05:35:00 pm »
Blazes what happens in the Waterberge?
I have been asked NOT to post the pics of the two bikes mentioned falling all over the place in the thick sand. The one 800 owner who is Not a forum member bought a KTM Duke. seems he is cured and on the road to recovery As for the rest---maybe it should just stay in the Waterberg--

now i know your talking k@k going from a 800gs to a duke thats like going from a land cruiser to a pt cruiser  :ricky:
Actually he had a 640 KTM first broke his leg on the Roof three years ago-sold the 640 bought a 250 4strk KTM first ride after his leg healed---broke it again ??? Kept the 250KTM-When the leg healed he bought a Duke....Sold it to buy a 800gs Nearly broke his leg in the Waterberg --sold the 800gs and bought a Duke ;)

The last pic of him on his 800gs.
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