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Offline DeepBass9

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DR 200
« on: July 28, 2009, 07:40:56 am »
Check out what I bought for the wife...  :mwink:  and me!  DR200, apparently  a 2000 model, 14000km, seems in reasonable good nick. I'm getting the back carrier and original front light, back light and mirrors later this week. Whaddaya think?

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 07:46:11 am »
One thing its missing is a left hand side cover. Any idea where I might find one?

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 07:49:46 am »
Nice DB. Is is still liscenced? Lekker for  a run-about :thumleft:

For the side cover: Make one out of f-glass, try borrow one to throw a mould off.
 

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 08:01:07 am »
Congrats! ;D
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 08:05:29 am »
Unfortunately you've got the cheaper Agri version with the cheap steel rims and the rather useless oil cooler.
(The DS versions of both DR200SE and Djebel200 came with stylish Aluminium rims andf no oil cooler.

Besides that:

A fantastic small DS, very capable and surprisingly agile for a 200cc (leaves TW's for dead in every field).

Get at least Kings KT966 - or even more aggressive knobblies if you don't do tar at all.
A 3.00 - 21 works very well in front as a replacement of the 2.75 - 21 when paired with a 4.10 - 18 rear KT966. Just remember that your speedo reading will not give you any grace range any more due to the slightly bigger tire diameter. If it reads sixty now you do sixty.

Get handguards.

Convert the swingarm pivot to needle bearings - Parts available from Le Cap ;D
The swingarm pivot is very wear prone fibre reinforced nylon bushes and one of only two weak points of this bike. If you bounce the back and it squeaks - replace.

Learn to live with the pap front brake. I tried various brake pads and the brake is shite if you compare it with a DR650SE. If you compare it with the front brake of the old KLR it's state of the art though  >:D
In the dirt the front brake is sufficient and might even be heplpful for a beginner. The rear drum works well to assist the tiny disc in the front in case you have to "drop anchor".

Don't know how much the side cover is but I don't think it's worth your while to make a fibreglass copy. Just buy a new one.
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 09:08:08 am »
Just took it for a spin, on the dirt. Very light and agile compared to a KLR! Only gets up to 90 on the tar, seems like the gearing is way too long. The rear sprocket is a 37, I'm sure the stock one must be significantly larger than that. The front tyre is a 21/90/90 so the indicated 90 must be real. The chain is a bit worn so when I replace that I'll get a bigger rear sprocket.

Its just about impossible to lock up the front brake, but as you say Lecap, for a beginner this is going to be a good thing! Handgaurds are definitely on the shopping list.

The bike was deregistered, so once I have all the bits to make it roadworthy again, it shouldn't be a problem to get it street legal. (If it is going to ever leave the farm any significant distance).

Going to be a fun toy.......
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one of only two weak points of this bike.

What's the other weak point?
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 09:16:06 am »
The sprockets are supposed to be 15 - 45. Anything else won't work.

With this gearing you can even pop wheelies :biggrin: and it tops out at about 120 if you fold your ears in.
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 09:18:47 am »
The rear sprocket is a 37, I'm sure the stock one must be significantly larger than that.

I had a look on the wife's Djebel200(Same as DR200).................the bike is standard and the rear sprocket is a 45 teeth.
 

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 09:20:35 am »
Does the agri one have the same gearing as the SE?

Rear sprocket is actually a 39 not 37, but nevertheless, that's a long way from a 45.
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 09:27:11 am »
I would suspect the agri's gearing - if different - to be even longer shorter to make for better slow speed power and climbing.

I(t's rather an issue of what the dealer had on the shelf or a failed tuning attempt. ???
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2009, 09:33:51 am »
Ja, likely. I'll try a 45. It is a farm bike after all, in name and application.

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2009, 09:51:45 am »
Aha!!! Lightbulb comes on with blazing flash of light!!! The chain is not worn, the adjusters are simply at the end of their travel becuase there is supposed to be a 45 sprocket, not a 39!!!! Chain and sprockets both look fine, not worn at all.

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2009, 10:32:40 am »
Just spoke to Suzuki in Kaya sands to get a new foam air filter, the plastic goody inside and the bolt that holds it in place. R250 for the foam filter and R500 for the  plastic bit inside the filter and the bolt. Insane! There must surely be a cheaper way to get hold of a new filter than that. Any forum vendors that can help?

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 11:21:24 am »
I would be more worried about the bike having been run without air filter than about the price for the spares.
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2009, 11:56:23 am »
Not run without a filter, filter was removed to get a new one and then lost. But R500 for a tiny bit of plastic is nuts.

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 12:01:22 pm »
Learn to live with the pap front brake. I tried various brake pads and the brake is shite

Can you upgrade the front brake in any cost effective way?
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2009, 12:07:02 pm »
Just spoke to Suzuki in Kaya sands to get a new foam air filter, the plastic goody inside and the bolt that holds it in place. R250 for the foam filter and R500 for the  plastic bit inside the filter and the bolt. Insane! There must surely be a cheaper way to get hold of a new filter than that. Any forum vendors that can help?

Absolutely insane I agree. A while ago I also got hit for R200+ for the same air filter (the KLR filter is a lot cheaper) and even tried a few shops after I got the first quote. They were all going to charge me the same. One guy's excuse: "Ja, but they make them in Holland." If you ever source the real thing any cheaper, please let us know.
 

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Re: DR 200
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2009, 12:50:15 pm »
Learn to live with the pap front brake. I tried various brake pads and the brake is shite

Can you upgrade the front brake in any cost effective way?

It would involve a bit of engineering, not worth it unless you can make a few sets.
I would say increase the disc in size to maybe 260mm and relocate the caliper with a bracket. Would cost probably in the area of R2500 to R 3000 with disc made by Fidel and design cost not accounted for.
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2009, 10:47:49 pm »
Check out what I bought for the wife...  :mwink:  and me!  DR200, apparently  a 2000 model, 14000km, seems in reasonable good nick. I'm getting the back carrier and original front light, back light and mirrors later this week. Whaddaya think?
i.ve got the dr250 1995 model ,,disk at the back ,thicker upside down front shocks,great bike jou've got ,congrats
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Re: DR 200
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2009, 06:43:15 pm »
It does put a smile on your face when you are riding footpaths through the veld, goes absolutely anywhere. Brilliant bike!