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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2010, 07:04:07 pm »
PS I might be biased, but I like riding at different places and for different reasons. My garage is currently home to a mountainbike (used to ride a lot and in spots where bikes are not allowed), a G650X Challenge (for the longer adventure trips with luggage) and a Zero X (for playing in spots where the light weight and no noise / emissions) gets me access to places where "regular" plastics can't go or aren't allowed to go.
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2010, 07:50:59 pm »
PS I might be biased, but I like riding at different places and for different reasons. My garage is currently home to a mountainbike (used to ride a lot and in spots where bikes are not allowed), a G650X Challenge (for the longer adventure trips with luggage) and a Zero X (for playing in spots where the light weight and no noise / emissions) gets me access to places where "regular" plastics can't go or aren't allowed to go.

Hey, bertrand, are you saying you actually own a Zero-X? How cool is that! Did you import from the States yourself?

And, of course:
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #82 on: March 23, 2010, 08:27:51 pm »
What is a bike without sound.

Sound will be on the ipod in your ears  :ricky:
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #83 on: March 23, 2010, 08:54:24 pm »
PS I might be biased, but I like riding at different places and for different reasons. My garage is currently home to a mountainbike (used to ride a lot and in spots where bikes are not allowed), a G650X Challenge (for the longer adventure trips with luggage) and a Zero X (for playing in spots where the light weight and no noise / emissions) gets me access to places where "regular" plastics can't go or aren't allowed to go.

Hey, bertrand, are you saying you actually own a Zero-X? How cool is that! Did you import from the States yourself?

And, of course:
 :useless:

Jip, I actually have one in my garage. There are two in the country. Both are 2008 X models brought in for testing and local validation.

A bit of inside info: Zero's will be available in SA soon :)

The only two Zero's in the country:


Yes, they are waterproof! (Me trying to drown the X)


A nice pic from the states:
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #84 on: March 23, 2010, 09:15:39 pm »
How much does it weigh and how far/long on a charge?
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #85 on: March 23, 2010, 09:19:04 pm »
Sign me up :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Where do you get the inside info , and who do i have to  >:D to get some

Could we push you for a review  :deal:
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #86 on: March 23, 2010, 09:36:55 pm »
How much does it weigh and how far/long on a charge?

Somewhere between 1 to 2 hours for a charge. The last bit takes some time so you tend to get 80% or something in less than an hour and the smart charger finishes the job before the 2 hour mark... Costs me about R1.30 to recharge from completely empty. :D

Riding time (continuous) is about two hours easily. I tend to get at least half a days ride playing in technical areas as it is me who needs to stop every once in a while for a water break and a rest. Range is stated as 64km by Zero, but I have yet to test this with a GPS.

Total weight is only 73kg (bike is 52.2kg and battery is 20.9kg)

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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #87 on: March 23, 2010, 09:40:51 pm »
Sign me up :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Where do you get the inside info , and who do i have to  >:D to get some

Could we push you for a review  :deal:

Your locations says: other. Where are you based?

Jip, I can do a review, but as I mentioned I might be biased :D . Maybe we need to get an independent / unbiased reviewer?
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #88 on: March 23, 2010, 10:30:58 pm »
Would be great to putt (wel zeeeeee) around in the mountains where motorcycles aren't allowed!

Would be awesome to try one out!

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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #89 on: March 24, 2010, 02:58:09 am »



Im personally fine with a biased review as im sure the negatives will be pointed out by others >:D
I am blindly positive about the future of these vehicles , like you say , wont be the only machine in the garage but certainly will fill a void

The range and charge time seems very reasonable when taking the size into consideration

60 odd km s is less than alot of peoples comutes , maybe not Joburg or CT, there must be a market for a "street legal" version
Im currently in the caribbean , last legs of a job that could end anytime , wont mind as my brother is getting a little to lyrical about my wheels in his garage :mwink:,eastern cape when in SA, slummies
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2010, 05:09:47 am »
Maybe we need to get an independent / unbiased reviewer?

ok cool - send it to me I'll review it  :thumleft: :imaposer:
 

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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2010, 07:54:14 am »
if you want to be the first kid on the block with the newest toy you always have to pay exorbitant prices
 

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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #95 on: March 24, 2010, 07:58:30 am »



Im personally fine with a biased review as im sure the negatives will be pointed out by others >:D
I am blindly positive about the future of these vehicles , like you say , wont be the only machine in the garage but certainly will fill a void

The range and charge time seems very reasonable when taking the size into consideration

60 odd km s is less than alot of peoples comutes , maybe not Joburg or CT, there must be a market for a "street legal" version
Im currently in the caribbean , last legs of a job that could end anytime , wont mind as my brother is getting a little to lyrical about my wheels in his garage :mwink:,eastern cape when in SA, slummies

The S and DS are street legal. Range is about 80km on those.
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #96 on: March 24, 2010, 08:06:48 am »
How about a little comparison of costs for interest sake?

Anyone here with a 250 plastic? The info that we would need:
- List price new
- Average price for a service
- Service intervals (hours)
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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #97 on: March 24, 2010, 08:09:20 am »
Starting at: $7,495.00  :eek7:

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1
That is crazy!

You can understand why, though. New technology, low volume production, etc.
This is why the Prius never really took off, none of these manufacturers have factored in the real costs of these technologies and the public needs to know that this is very expensive and very hard on the environment due to the exotic materials involved. Lithium is dangerous! as are most of the materials used in modern high capacity batteries.
Not only that the materials are scarce as well, Peru is the mains source for Lithium and is thinking of limiting the export... that will drive prices up and make these so called eco-friendly forms of transport even more expensive.
Sometimes the tried and tested simple technology is the better option... CO2 is used bt trees by the way... :mwink:
 

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Re: Das Zero Emission Motorcycle von KTM.
« Reply #98 on: March 24, 2010, 08:12:15 am »
How about a little comparison of costs for interest sake?

Anyone here with a 250 plastic? The info that we would need:
- List price new
- Average price for a service
- Service intervals (hours)

What does servicing a Zero-X entail?
Intervals?
Price of consumables?
Price of spares?
 

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