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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #140 on: June 26, 2009, 08:07:20 pm »
Start to remember more . There was one more BS instructor cant remember his name he left aswell to the USA and become a com diver to work on Rigs.


He he that was me, long sad story since :biggrin:

Captain Stroebel left in 1983, went to BMW but he has been dead for several years, I'm talking to his mom and brother to get whatever they have left of his stuff too.

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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #141 on: June 26, 2009, 08:29:02 pm »
So you were also ryding the sandmaster on the parade ground the RSM had a fit!!
If i am not mistake you went to test uther offroads 3wheelers and a quad near Upington to evaluate for us in the sadf
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« Reply #142 on: June 26, 2009, 10:03:52 pm »
talking about the header tank wat the okes did is to gut the top off and put the B25 radio in
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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #143 on: June 27, 2009, 06:35:29 pm »

Steve in Dar, I'll make a note thanks, still have my KTM 950in Greece that must come to SA somehow. I'd love to ride through Tanzania, nice country.

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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #144 on: July 19, 2009, 03:58:27 pm »
Hozit all
There were two tragic insidents during my time in berede 83 to 87

1.One bike squad demo team member was bitten by a "meercat" on sunday
morning and taken to hosp but was released next day about 3 day's after he past away the "meercat" had rabies.

2.We had to stand guard at the ammo dump near north west command when the truck samil 100  driver cold not make his turn and stop to reverse
one troop jump of to pick up stones to trow at sign boards. He slipped and fell
under the back wheels and was run over.He died on the spot.

Does anybody remember these insidents

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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #145 on: July 20, 2009, 10:51:46 am »
Another one in 87 I think was with the bike demo squad at a show, when one of the guys fell "asleep" under a samil late one night, and did not wake up when it was started, and they rode over him - Think the surname was Stubbs?
 

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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #146 on: September 18, 2009, 10:40:57 am »
Hi I was in BS in 85/86 we were the first to deploy from SWASES to Soweto.. I remember the incidents that you talking about there was another incident at a training base called (Misita) Northern Cape. One of my troops shot him self through the chest with a R4.
 

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« Reply #147 on: September 18, 2009, 12:08:50 pm »
The troop who died from rabies might have been Bruce West who was from East London. The army doctor stuffed up big time and the whole issue could easily been avoided. I was his teacher and I used to ride in the bush on their farm near Nahoon Dam with him and his younger brother.
 

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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #148 on: October 01, 2009, 03:26:12 pm »
Hozit all
There were two tragic insidents during my time in berede 83 to 87

1.One bike squad demo team member was bitten by a "meercat" on sunday
morning and taken to hosp but was released next day about 3 day's after he past away the "meercat" had rabies.

2.We had to stand guard at the ammo dump near north west command when the truck samil 100  driver cold not make his turn and stop to reverse
one troop jump of to pick up stones to trow at sign boards. He slipped and fell
under the back wheels and was run over.He died on the spot.

Does anybody remember these insidents

Cheers


Not sure if your 2nd one is the same one I recall.  We were on sport pass (Wednesday) in '84 to Potch when one of the oaks tried to get onto a Samil 100 and landed inbetween the rear wheels.  Think the oak was a Corporal, quite a big man.   I think Henry Honniball may remember some more of this.
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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #149 on: October 01, 2009, 03:29:09 pm »
We had another incident in '85.  The Guys from 2 SWAPES left Onathinge bridge at night back for Okatope Base.  The Platoon Sgt (Cpl) left after the rest to ensure everything was fine and then tried to catch up with the rest.  He ended up riding into the rear end of the last bike in the squad.  He did not make it.
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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #150 on: October 29, 2009, 12:13:29 pm »
wondering if these two bikes were used on the border??

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« Reply #151 on: November 02, 2009, 02:48:32 pm »
We had another incident in '85.  The Guys from 2 SWAPES left Onathinge bridge at night back for Okatope Base.  The Platoon Sgt (Cpl) left after the rest to ensure everything was fine and then tried to catch up with the rest.  He ended up riding into the rear end of the last bike in the squad.  He did not make it.

I have heard about this incident. Apparently he wasn't wearing a helmet and hit the tar road head first. Anybody know more?

Confirm the Stubbs accident. I'm in northern Uganda at the moment, at my bro Patrick's, he was the officer in charge at that show. Durban, if I remember correctly. Stubbs got pissed and belligerent, was ordered to go sleep it off and disobeyed, left the barracks again, passed out under a SAMIL and was run over. He was very flat around the chest. Patrick told me the story just the other night. He picked Stubbs up and put him in the ambulance, the others wouldn't touch him. The investigation determined that he had acted absolutely correct, witnesses testified the same.

That makes at least 7 okes I know of who died while in bike squad. Only one was operational.

2 weeks before I got there in January 1981, a Lt named Burger was killed at the back of Berede, where the road went between the lane of trees by old Commandant Stark's house. He raced the MX nationals and had his own CR 250 in the camp, went screaming down the road out the back of the base and hit an old Bedford garbage truck at the left dogleg between the trees back there. Some of my other B/S corporal connections talked to him as he was leaving camp and less than a minute later heard him hit the truck. Killed instantly.

About a week later L/cpl Swanepoel hit a cheese mine near Oshigambo in Ovamboland. Patrick was the rider right behind him, he's told me the story in detail. Then a few weeks later, one of the new loots who had arrived with me, Neil Johnson from Cape Town, was killed at Brickor MX track in Edenvale near Joburg airport. Just past Corobrik. He raced 125's and crashed after the start and a bunch of bikes ran over him.

Re the bikes on Gumtree (what is that, an online classified or something?) the one in the foreground is either an 81 or 82, front fender looks 81-ish. The bike's been afro-engineered to a certain extent. Frame is silver, brown paint ?? Looks in decent shape for an 81. Doubt if it's ex-SADF. All those were pretty well trashed. Can't see any evidence of luggage rack welded on behind the seat - it ended up breaking the subframe on almost all the bikes.
 
I have 2 82's in a container that just docked in Cape Town yesterday, and one at my dad's house in Florida. I like to sit on them - the muscle memory is very enjoyable.

The bike in the backgound is not 81 or 82 - check the engine and exhaust. It's a wreck, from the looks of it.

Do any of you 84/85/86 okes remember Sgts Ruben de Kock and Joe D'Abreu? And De Wet? He was a nasty piece of work, sadistic PF type, was 6 months junior to me. We didn't see eye to eye, needless to say. Came v-e-e-e-ry close to a rumble in the jungle a few times :biggrin: He didn't enjoy being called a PF p**s, apparently. Sensitive type, below the skin.   

I'm still collecting stories and info about B/S for the unit history, running a bit behind cause I'm out of the country at the moment. Please contact me, your story will help complete the project.

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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #152 on: November 02, 2009, 03:19:02 pm »
I have a mate barry Kruger I think he was in Bike squad in 86 0r 7 now runs a knock shop in Pretoria, will pm you his number when I find it, you could hook up for a wild ride on the wild side  :3some:
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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #153 on: November 02, 2009, 03:21:17 pm »
 Wherethefuckarewe - I remember the names De Wet and De Kock - what is Patrick's surname??
 

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« Reply #154 on: November 02, 2009, 04:18:11 pm »
MikeB - thanks - everybody I speak to adds one more piece to the puzzle. We spke on the phone once, right? Must chat again sometime when I get back. Over a beer.

Pistol - it's Devy. He was a troop in pl 6/7 and later came back as a lt, later Captain and the CO. I never met Ruben De Kock, but Patrick has told me many stories about him, same with D'Abreu. Crazy bastards too. Ja old de Wet was originally a donkey driver, never did much with the bikes, just the infantry training. Tough oke, as far as he knew. I believe he is still in the South African National Disgrace Force.

I suppose it's typical, I am still good friends with several of my gabbas from those days, I see 3 from B/S 1981/2/3 all the time..... maybe it's time gone by, but I remember all the bikers as good okes :biggrin:
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Re: The year long All Expenses Paid hooligan ride
« Reply #155 on: November 02, 2009, 06:46:23 pm »
When I was in std 7 I use to ride with a guy who use to be in the bike squad.

He could lift the XR in 1 st gear, take it to 5th, start gearing down to 1st again. All on the back wheel. His record for a wheelie was 28km. Changing hands, gearing up and down, going around corners everything. He had lotsa pics in his house. Where they would built jumps and snap the Xr's in half etc.

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« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2009, 09:10:08 am »
MikeB - thanks - everybody I speak to adds one more piece to the puzzle. We spke on the phone once, right? Must chat again sometime when I get back. Over a beer.

Pistol - it's Devy. He was a troop in pl 6/7 and later came back as a lt, later Captain and the CO. I never met Ruben De Kock, but Patrick has told me many stories about him, same with D'Abreu. Crazy bastards too. Ja old de Wet was originally a donkey driver, never did much with the bikes, just the infantry training. Tough oke, as far as he knew. I believe he is still in the South African National Disgrace Force.

I suppose it's typical, I am still good friends with several of my gabbas from those days, I see 3 from B/S 1981/2/3 all the time..... maybe it's time gone by, but I remember all the bikers as good okes :biggrin:

Thats it, do remember him - he came back as Cpt, and was the Adjudant for the period that I was there - Kmdt Ackerman was in charge when I left. RSM Van Coller was there at the time - also a "different one" that!
 

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« Reply #157 on: November 04, 2009, 04:09:55 pm »
Yeah we chatted on the phone a while back, couldn't seem to get our scheduals to gel, but I'm always up for a beer or two, let me know when you get back and you can head out to the farm for a day or two. :thumleft:
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« Reply #158 on: January 24, 2010, 09:15:15 pm »
WTFAW Was mazed to see all the info you have on BS. I was in Potch Platoon 6. Passed out at Potch and then went to join Film Bureuax in Pretoria when all the guys went to the border. I had many photos mostly in storage now. The scene of Pa Burgers crash and many others from around Potch and near Mafeking. I will try dig them out if you are interested. I live in UK now and have been working North sea as ROV pilot. Do quite a bit of off road here in UK. Anyway good to read all the posts and looking forward to hearing more about when the book will be published.
 

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« Reply #159 on: January 30, 2010, 04:43:14 pm »
Hello Greybeard,

Yes, please dig them out, I'm VERY interested.

I got to Berede around the 10th of January 1981, from what I was told just a week or so after Lt. Burger got killed, I remember seeing the Bedford garbage truck in the vehicle park. Should have taken a photo of it, but wasn't thinking about the future (the past) then. Two of my corporal friends spoke to him as he jaaged out the back, heard him hit the truck and were first on the scene.

My best friend was in Pl 6 (or 7, he can't remember, the dumbshit) and I knew Dave Buck then, he lives 3 k's away from where I am now.  Do you remember any of these okes? .....Brian Dial (have contact with him), Derek Bruff, Johan le Roux, Craig Cousins, CP Nel,  Olwage,  Jerry du Preez, and of course Pieter Swanepoel who hit the mine. Or Peter Fourie? I just made contact with him too, he's in Windhoek. Or any of the corporals? Clem da Mata? Dommiekie de Klerk? Claassen, Froneman, Chandler? Staff Beets? Or the loots, Wannenburg or Basson? I am also in contact with Capt. Stroebel's family, he's been dead for more than ten years now.

Please PM me, we have a lot to talk about. My first job after SADF was diver for SubSea Intl. Never got to the North Sea, but knew many okes from there. I have some interesting shots of ROV's in the mid-80's that you'd like.

Looks like I'll be living in the UK part-time towards the end of the year, too. May need some advice. You know, the INSIDER info  :ricky:

It'sa fun project, making contact with many old connections after living overseas for a long time.
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