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Offline WF

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Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« on: October 28, 2009, 03:15:31 pm »
Hi Everyone ! Its time for my son to get himself to and from school. So just wanted your opinion on the 125cc bikes. Yamaha 2 stroke or honda 4 stroke ? He will be doing around 60km a day of mostly open road. He is quite a big lad at 87kg.It will need to be the on/off road versions of either bike.
I have no experience on the modern 4 strokes but always considered the small 4 stroke to be a real dog .
Any comment ?
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 03:20:06 pm »
I will prefer the dt 125, great power and very enjoying! :thumleft:
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 03:38:37 pm »
Your key is probably in the km's

He is going to add up a lot, and in that case the 4 stroke might be better ....... or not?
Someone please give us advice, i would also like to know.

performance wise, defnitely the DT
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 03:42:01 pm »
Yamaha also have a 125 4 Stroke(xtz125) ,only problem is that it is discontued so rather go honda 4 stroke nxr!
These 4 strokes have good power,not a lot,but to get from point A to point B ,they are great! :thumleft:
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 03:45:27 pm »
Your key is probably in the km's

He is going to add up a lot, and in that case the 4 stroke might be better ....... or not?
Someone please give us advice, i would also like to know.

performance wise, defnitely the DT

That's my thinking as well.

2 Stroke is heavier on juice (and uses twe stroke duh) and the perception is that the 2T motors was never designed for lots of highway type kilometers.

Like Snafu I am also mainly guessing here.

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 04:18:31 pm »
Listen: You dont even have ask this question . . .Anyway,im going to give you the best advice!

2Stroke - Is a thing of the past,Forget bout it. . .(from the smell,to the fuel and oil mixing to the smoking,the noise ect.)

4stroke is the future - Just get a Honda NXR125 - As everyone said,and it is true,The little motor is BULLET PROOF!!

Fill the tank up (13L) and you can get about 300km without reserve (another 50/60km) out of it! ! !

I toured with mine with the bigger bikes,So the NXR is well capable of it . . .I have even seen guys riding it in dunes :deal:

So there you have it,You cant go wrong!

Tell your son:I say he must enjoy his NXR,Cause I hade sum of the best times in my life on mine!! 8)

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 04:24:10 pm »
So Mr Martin, what about the superior performance of the 2T ?
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2009, 04:26:37 pm »
WF since you are in the Gauteng area give Linex Yamaha a shout and see if they still have that awesome used little DT175 available, was marked at R18k or thereabouts with hardly any mileage  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2009, 04:27:28 pm »
I'd get the dt- cheaper to run/maintain and allot more performance
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 04:29:31 pm »
250cc with 125cc sticker kit.... :biggrin:

No matter what 125 you get in the 4-stroke range, it will kark with 87kg on board...
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 04:31:08 pm »
I'd get the dt- cheaper to run/maintain and allot more performance

And this from someone who rode the proverbial "kak" out of his NXR125  :ricky: Eish, imagine if you had had a DT 175 instead of the NXR, doubt you would have gone to school at all  ;D
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2009, 04:32:40 pm »
Bhaahahaha! :imaposer:
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2009, 04:35:19 pm »
I'd get the dt- cheaper to run/maintain and allot more performance

Etienne, can you give me some figures on what your statement is based on?
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 04:36:24 pm »
performace wise 2 T is way better ...

i had an xtz125e ..nice lil bike with a disk up front ...great economy and reliable but a bit on the slow side. if i were to be in the market again i would go 2 stroke ...
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 04:45:30 pm »
Snafu:
Main thing is parts prices, especially becuase its a starter bike, he is going to fall and break stuff.
Honda nxr parts:
Oem rear sprocket R900!
Front mudguard R1 000!
The parts are waaaay overpriced.
Yamaha's parts are dirt cheap, a rear sprocket is like R130, thats R770 cheaper than honda...
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 04:48:08 pm »
If seen that DT125,It has a little bit more of a pull . . .But if you want to ride long distances and stuff the 4stroke is gonna be your best option.

Wait till he's 18,and then buy a proper bike with power!!

So thats my advice . . I mean,I hate 2stroke >:D

Up to you . . .
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 04:49:05 pm »
Snafu:
Main thing is parts prices, especially becuase its a starter bike, he is going to fall and break stuff.
Honda nxr parts:
Oem rear sprocket R900!
Front mudguard R1 000!
The parts are waaaay overpriced.
Yamaha's parts are dirt cheap, a rear sprocket is like R130, thats R770 cheaper than honda...
About 2 months ago i have had my sprockets and chain changed,I have a Yami xtz 125e.Cost me a total of R1150.
My friend had to change his aswell, he paid more around R2K,he owns a Honda Nxr125(bross)
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2009, 04:52:10 pm »
Nothing like the smell of 2 stroke first thing in the morning, also nothing like the sound of a 2 stroke taking off from a jump  :thumleft:
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2009, 04:53:12 pm »
Et,You dont buy that parts from HONDA -Are you mad,They are faarking crazy . . .

And not every one falls as much as you . . . .LOL ;D

I can remember,I payed like R150 + R100 for a front and rear sprocket,Thats after market . .

The drum brakes you can take to a place to refill,or make them like new again,not expensive at all.

The NXR is gonna be the better option between the two bikes.! :deal:
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2009, 04:53:36 pm »
Nothing like the smell of 2 stroke first thing in the morning, also nothing like the sound of a 2 stroke taking off from a jump  :thumleft:
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I still love 2 strokes not a great sound with standard exhaust,but with an FMF ,waaahhoooo.GREAT!!!! :thumleft:
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