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Offline Martin-DR650

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2009, 05:03:16 pm »
I went to go dig up sum old paperwork now from my NXR - A front sprocket I bought

PBR Bologna-Italy:
R140

 . . . . Uhm,Ok thats all I could find,and a bunch of rear sprockets and chains,but not so expensive as you saying . .
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2009, 05:05:06 pm »
I went to go dig up sum old paperwork now from my NXR - A front sprocket I bought

PBR Bologna-Italy:
R140

 . . . . Uhm,Ok thats all I could find,and a bunch of rear sprockets and chains,but not so expensive as you saying . .
My friend bought OEM part and had them fitted and I think that is what cost him a lot of money
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2009, 05:05:11 pm »
I said R900 for the OEM sprocket
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2009, 05:12:41 pm »
G!!!Thats alot hay . . . :o
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2009, 05:13:43 pm »
I said R900 for the OEM sprocket
Was that for only 1 sprocket or is that chain and both sprockets??
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2009, 05:15:56 pm »
Rear sprocket only.
I had myself a bigger (57t) rear sprocket waterjetted for half the price
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2009, 05:18:18 pm »
man OEm part are expensive,cant believe that my friend didnt try aftermarket or something. ???
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2009, 05:19:38 pm »
you see if you are in a hurry ,you waste money, you must have a look around
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2009, 06:17:27 pm »
Check out the latest Quad/off road Magazine.(Nov issue)
There's a maljan that took a 125 Honda from England to South Africa ...... TWO _UP!!!
No problems with the bike to speak of.
Will a 2-stroke do this? (Specially when you moer the sump-plug out, seize the bike, fill it with diesel oil , and it keeps going!)
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2009, 06:20:27 pm »
Check out the latest Quad/off road Magazine.(Nov issue)
There's a maljan that took a 125 Honda from England to South Africa ...... TWO _UP!!!
No problems with the bike to speak of.
Will a 2-stroke do this? (Specially when you moer the sump-plug out, seize the bike, fill it with diesel oil , and it keeps going!)

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2009, 06:42:18 pm »
The 2stroke does not even have a engine oil sump plug at all! If your 87KG laaitie is connected to a ham-fisted wrist, you will soon be
coughing up dearly for valves as well!
The 4stroke is slightly more economical, but it should be with so much less power.
You buy a bike from Honda, then all the spares pirate, soon you sit with a moegoe-mobile.
Buy the stroker from Yam and also all it's parts, economical!

Tell me, Martin, why do you hate 2strokes?
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2009, 07:49:11 pm »
Thanks for all the advice guys, although there seems to be no clear answer.My son is not new to riding, presently rides a WR 450 so either way he is going to be dissapointed.
But this will be purely for school and back. The 175 or 250 with 125 sticker is tempting but when things go wrong as they can do i think the insurance and legal problems could be serious. The registration docs will ulimately say 175or 250 so legaly he would be un- lisensed.

Im biased to the Yamaha cos i grew up with 175 DT'S but notice at the school only Honda's .
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2009, 07:55:37 pm »
Hello Dirty Darryl,  ;D

Get him the 690 - You know YOU will like it  :thumleft:
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2009, 07:57:12 pm »
Only negative about the Yam DT is its dated styling, important to young ones[and most older ones too]
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2009, 08:21:03 pm »
If you sieze the DT you will spend less than 2k to get it going again, about 6k or more on the 4-strokes.

Ride them now before they are banned.
Give the kid some memories at least.
 

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2009, 08:33:37 pm »
Thanks for all the advice guys, although there seems to be no clear answer.My son is not new to riding, presently rides a WR 450 so either way he is going to be dissapointed.
But this will be purely for school and back. The 175 or 250 with 125 sticker is tempting but when things go wrong as they can do i think the insurance and legal problems could be serious. The registration docs will ulimately say 175or 250 so legaly he would be un- lisensed.

Im biased to the Yamaha cos i grew up with 175 DT'S but notice at the school only Honda's .

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So let him deside what he wants. . .He's the 0ne who's gonna be riding it! :deal:
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2009, 08:36:40 pm »
Yes, SharkZa, you're so right, future riders will soon have no choice of any 2stroke, so Martin leave your son with decent stories to tell!
The Americans say there's no substitute for cubic inches in a 4stroke. This is true, a small 4stroke is just a piece of shit.
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2009, 09:31:11 pm »
Bought my son a NXR 125 not so long ago. He's also quite a tall lad. Seems like a nice little bike despite the fact that I am not a Honda fan. I compared it with a similar looking Chinese disposable and found that they look pretty much the same. Only obvious differences were the disposable had upside down forks and disc barkes front and back whereas the Honda doesn't. I really think Honda could have done better with that little bike.

I've never liked 2 smokes. They're noisy and they stink, but yeah, they do go better than 4 strokes.
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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2009, 09:38:54 pm »
2strokes are noisy because you take the baffle out, and they stink because you dont understand the ratio measurements!

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Re: Advice needed 125cc 2-stroke or 4 stroke
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2009, 09:35:37 am »
I've been commuting on a DT175 for the last 2 weeks, 100kg & 6 foot 4... and it's an awesome little bike. I can do highway with it, but it prefers side roads, it Wheelies quite happily with me on it.
Off road is great, it handles rocks, mud, sand, logs, everything with ease.

I have ridden the Honda 4 stroke 125, and can honestly say there is no comparison - 4 stroke will get you there, 2 stroke will get you there with a grin.

Let me know if you need a test ride.
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