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Offline Martin-DR650

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-- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« on: December 08, 2009, 06:36:38 pm »
Did a trip through Anysberg and 7weekspoort this past weekend,did about 718km's.
After every trip I clean the bike,chain,the air filter with some petrol,If you remove the seat on top of the carb there is a black pipe with a small filter on,I even clean that.

This morning I needed to be somewhere and about 3blocks away my DR started giving me shit. >:(
BUT I havent washed or cleaned anything yet,was planning on doing that when I came back.

Anyway on the robot not far from my house the bike just died,there was just no throttle response,As if the bike isnt getting enough air or fuel. . .I dont know.Checked the oil and it was on the lower mark,but on the trip I checked it regularly and it was fine.


Managed to get home ,caled suzuki south,the guy said I must clean the airfilter,otherwise I must drain the carb(the little screw at the bottom,drained some fuel out.)
I did it all,I filled it with some oil and washed the bike,everything still nothing.
The bike doesnt even want to start now,and It's not ideling corectly ether.


What I want to do now is Remove he tank and then the Carb,The thing is I havent  done this before and need some help?Hopefully it will then start and be back to normal.?I just want to clean the thing,maybe there is some Sh!t in the carb. . . .

Lecap: I have done as you said,but how do I remove the carb now,I dont wanna mess things up,If you understand what im saying . . .

Can the Sparkplugs maybe have some roll in this?My bike have 9700km's on now.

Thanx
Will appreciate the help! :thumleft:
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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 06:40:45 pm »
shit,  i wish i had some advice...

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 06:47:15 pm »
Sounds like dirt in the carb.
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 06:50:17 pm »
Sounds like dirt in the carb.

I hope that's the only problem. . .

Ek sukkel al heel donerse middag om die bike aan die gang te kry. ??? >:(
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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 06:53:19 pm »
Sounds like dirt in the carb. The plugs should still be fine at that mileage. It doesn't seem to be electrical ... the starter motor is turning the motor over, I presume. If not - it might be the kick stand switch.

Just a note - don't clean your chain with petrol!!! It'll chow your o-ring chain. Use an oil based solvent.

Also ... don't clean the air filter with petrol. A soft soap will do. Then oil it. Petrol is for combustion, not cleaning!!  :deal:

Don't stress too much about this. I think it should be an easy fix.

Good luck!
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 07:01:25 pm by jenks »
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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 07:07:26 pm »
Sounds like dirt in the carb. The plugs should still be fine at that mileage. It doesn't seem to be electrical ... the starter motor is turning the motor over, I presume. If not - it might be the kick stand switch.

Just a note - don't clean your chain with petrol!!! It'll chow your o-ring chain. Use an oil based solvent.

Don't stress too much about this. I think it should be an easy fix.

Good luck!

I did realize that my flickers to the right are both flashing corectly,but to the left only the front flickers faster and the rear left flicker is dead.
Still have to check that out.
I clean my chain with CLEAN GREEN and an old toothbrush-It works for me. ;)

But If the bike stand a short while I get it started ,go around the block and It would just die agen. . .  :'(

Anyway. . .

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 07:11:03 pm »
Sounds like it might be an electrical problem then. I'm no fundi with that. But you should be able to isolate the problem quite easily. Kykdaar posted something a while ago on bypassing the kickstand switch. Check the dr thread. There's also a switch on the clutch. It could be that.

Lecap will give you more detailed advice on this. PM him.

BTW - I noticed on my new dr that the flicker ran erratically. The bike had been standing for about two years and the battery was really weak. You may have run the battery down with the constant attempts at starting. Charge the battery on a trickle charger.I wouldn't turn the bike over and over. 'Trace the problem. Speak to lecap or some bike machy.

But I still think it's a carb problem. The electrical issues are probably from a run down battery.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 07:15:59 pm by jenks »
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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 07:22:01 pm »
Sounds like it might be an electrical problem then. I'm no fundi with that. But you should be able to isolate the problem quite easily. Kykdaar posted something a while ago on bypassing the kickstand switch. Check the dr thread. There's also a switch on the clutch. It could be that.

Lecap will give you more detailed advice on this. PM him.

BTW - I noticed on my new dr that the flicker ran erratically. The bike had been standing for about two years and the battery was really weak. You may have run the battery down with the constant attempts at starting. Charge the battery on a trickle charger.I wouldn't turn the bike over and over. 'Trace the problem. Speak to lecap or some bike machy.

But I still think it's a carb problem. The electrical issues are probably from a run down battery.

Dont think its the battery,Saw it the first time I rode today and this was the first time since I came back on sunday afternoon on the bike.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 07:22:47 pm by Martin-DR650 »
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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 07:25:33 pm »
to check if it is the sidestand switch,  go outside,  and flick the sidestand up and down solidly a few times,  and push the little plunger in the switch by hand once or twice to check it's releasing.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 07:29:22 pm by Ganjora »
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 07:31:40 pm »
nah,  fuckit,  just take this opportunity to chop it out.
it'll farkout eventually in any event.
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 07:33:04 pm »
remove the side panel
follow the wires from the switch to the connector plug under the seat

aww farkit

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might as well do the clutch switch...
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 09:14:59 pm »
You clean the air filter with petrol ?!?!?!?!
 

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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 09:19:38 pm »
You clean the air filter with petrol ?!?!?!?!

correct etienne,  parafin is the shiznit.
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 09:25:13 pm »
You clean the air filter with petrol ?!?!?!?!

correct etienne,  parafin is the shiznit.

Air filters are one thing you dont pooratech :)
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 07:37:31 am »
I'm pretty sure you have dirt in the carb.  Also check that the you remembered to take your cleaning cloth out of the airbox. 
The indicator thing is just a blown bulb. (It could also not be making contact)  Indicators flicking speed is proportional to the resistance of the bulbs.  If you lose one the other one flicks faster.
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 08:10:18 am »


But If the bike stand a short while I get it started ,go around the block and It would just die agen. . .  :'(



does the tank have a breather and can you check if it's free from obstruction?
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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 08:20:27 am »
Martin,

The DR is such a basic bike it should not take too long to isolate the problem.

I am no mechanic, but perhaps you will find something useful here -

Electrics and spark
- I hate farking electrics complicating matters so consider getting rid of the sidestand and clutch switches to make sure that they are not stufing you around.
- Now check the battery connections and voltage.
- I take it that the starter is working?
- Agree that the flicker issue is only a blown or loose bulb.
- Unscrew plugs, replace caps, hold against grounding point and check for spark. If spark then the next step is petrol (if no spark, time to call LeCap);

Fuel
- check that vacuum is operating and sucking fuel through to carb;
- havent done it on the DR yet, but normally you can loosen the carb's clamps, twist it sideways and remove thye carb bowl with the carb still in bike (if not then remove the carb completely);
- clean the carb, remove and clean the jets and check float level (do you have the manual?)

Air
- clean the airfilter

If you have air, fuel and spark in the right quantities at the right time it should work ;D


 
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 08:25:47 am »
Have you checked that somebody didn't perhaps turn your fuel tap to the off position?
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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2009, 08:34:37 am »
Another silly thing to check...is your choke off?
 

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Re: -- --DR650 Problems-- --HELP!?
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 07:31:14 pm »
Sedate and Chorse : Are you guys serious?


Anyway . . . .


I screwed the little swrew at the bottom of the carb,drained some fuel thru there,also got rid of the sidestand-switch
Bike started agen,and all was good,
Seems there was only some dirt/sh!t in the carb.

Cheers!
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