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Bikers spoil it for others.
« on: December 23, 2009, 08:15:18 pm »
Im currently visiting family staying in the gamtoos valley. This area must have some of the best riding places in SA, Baviaans, Elandsrivier, to name a few. My family knows all the farmers and private roads in the area and I enquired about a private road from Kouga dam to Kareedouw, the owner, Merwe du Preez never had a problem when bikers and 4x4's used this road as long as they close the gates behind them. This road is now off limits for bikers after the gates havent been closed after they entered, on 2 occations. I hope these bikers were non WD members, this happened during November 2009.
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 09:22:42 pm »
Stick to the rule that a gate must be closed if a stone is placed on the gatepost! :thumleft:
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 10:13:32 pm »
If a gate was closed I close it again, if it was open I leave it open.  :thumleft:

Have never heard about the stone on the gatepost thing, PP?
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 11:13:01 pm »
how did he know it was 'bikers' that disturbed the sacred gate protocol???[

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Im currently visiting family staying in the gamtoos valley. This area must have some of the best riding places in SA, Baviaans, Elandsrivier, to name a few. My family knows all the farmers and private roads in the area and I enquired about a private road from Kouga dam to Kareedouw, the owner, Merwe du Preez never had a problem when bikers and 4x4's used this road as long as they close the gates behind them. This road is now off limits for bikers after the gates havent been closed after they entered, on 2 occations. I hope these bikers were non WD members, this happened during November 2009.
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 02:48:38 pm »
I suppose if okes in 4x4's also failed to cloe the gate twice, then the owner would ban 4x4's as well...?

I'm not trying to excuse the alleged biker's actions, but I think that many people want to find a reason to stop bikers riding somewhere.
I mean, all bikers are dirty rotten scum, aren't they?   >:(
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2009, 05:42:53 pm »
He saw the tracks the next day, and a local staying at the dam saw the bikes passing, there is only one road going in and out.
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2009, 06:55:43 pm »
Ironically , the bikers being sactioned haven't been there yet, so he is banning bikers that haven't done anything wrong! ???

I suppose it is generally the few that stuff it up for the many! >:(

Also never heard of the stone on the gatepost ???
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2009, 08:34:20 pm »
Or the gatepost under the stone.
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2009, 10:23:04 pm »
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If a gate was closed I close it again, if it was open I leave it open. 

Have never heard about the stone on the gatepost thing, PP?

Ditto!!  :thumleft:
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2009, 10:23:53 pm »
What happened to having signs that say:
"PLEASE CLOSE THE GATE"
Are farmers illiterate these days ???
Stones on gateposts...  :patch:
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2009, 10:35:06 pm »
The stone on the gatepost is a known method groups of bikes / 4x4's use with regard to gates. It works like this:

Group of bikes / 4x4's travel together with some distance between them, lets say 2 minutes apart. The 1st vehicle stops, opens the gate and places a stone on the gate post to let the last vehicle know that the gate was closed and should be closed again. If the last vehicle approaches a gate ans there is no stone on the gate post he knows that the gate was open to begin with and should be left open.

This method would obviously not be used if there are livestock in the immediate vicinity of the closed gate.

Another method bikers use is the so called "D" formation. The leader always leads and the sweeper is always last. The rider riding second opens the gate for the leader and stays at the gate to let everybody through. As soon as the sweeper rides through he stops and waits for the gate to be closed. The rider that opened the gate then rides with the sweeper (who is always last) following. This rider now does not have to open a gate again until he progressed to being the 2nd bike again.
 

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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2009, 10:39:14 pm »
Not all gates must be closed nessecarily, the farmer leaves some open for livestock movement sometimes.
I always close a gate if I found it closed,and leave it open if I found it open.If the driver/rider before me
neglected to close the gate, I become part of the fault-chain.
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2009, 10:42:38 pm »

Not all gates must be closed necessarily, the farmer leaves some open for livestock movement sometimes.


Hence the need for a sign.
 

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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2009, 10:55:57 pm »
A sign saying what?
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2009, 10:56:55 pm »
No man ;D A sign like the stone on the gatepost to let you know if it should be left open or closed!
 

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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2009, 11:07:16 pm »
there is now a sign, "no entry".
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 09:56:44 am »
No man ;D A sign like the stone on the gatepost to let you know if it should be left open or closed!

..unless the stone falls off the gatepost!

The "D-formation" works best - always use it - for direction changes and gates on tar or dirt... :thumleft:
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2009, 01:21:33 pm »
I would like to 'put my head on a block" and say that i doubt that they were WDs....

All the times that I have ridden out with us WDs each gate has been closed after accessing it.. :thumleft:
 

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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2009, 08:31:11 pm »
Nah....i think we missed one or two along the way...it happens ;D
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Re: Bikers spoil it for others.
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2009, 10:06:58 pm »
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