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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2010, 10:23:57 am »
i figured this thread will just be a bunch of chirps  :-\

was hoping for some of the withhelders to grace us with some reasons


Bob, waht triggered this thread? I have not seen evidence of anyone withholding.

there are lots of dogs that do this

then one day at drinks you hear via the grapevine " __________  bike is completely f*cked the __________ is shot"

but you never see that post on the forum ???

then 3 weeks later __________ would continue on as if nothing ever broke and when people ask about bikes and problems then they eagerly give advice but they never mention that 3 weeks ago it cost them 15k to fix up ____________

you can insert names and brands as you see fit  ;D
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2010, 10:28:24 am »
I ride the best DS bike ever and have NEVER had any problems with it.  Here is a current pic of it as it now stands in my garage.   >:D



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OK, ok, ok,  I'm busy with the steering head bearings.  Have 35k on the clock so is suppose it was to be expected.  Beside this, I've fried one BMS unit (my own fault after jetting water into it at high pressure), had broken ignition wiring at the steering head, buggered fuel pump housing, replaced fork seals at 20k, and a hole in the radiator caused by a pebble between the frame and fins.

I am also taking this opportunity to strip and re-powder coat all the bracketry around the footpeg area.  Was looking a little rusty and tatty so should get that back around friday.  Also did the Adventurer mod on the sidestand at the same time.





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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 10:32:08 am »
Maybe its NOYFB?  ;)
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2010, 10:36:19 am »
What the hell name and shame them!   :deal:

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2010, 10:38:22 am »
Maybe its NOYFB?  ;)

maybe - but then if it is then dont make claims about having a trouble free bike or suggesting the bike to others if you dont want to share all the info  ???
 

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2010, 10:41:54 am »
Maybe its NOYFB?  ;)

maybe - but then if it is then dont make claims about having a trouble free bike or suggesting the bike to others if you dont want to share all the info  ???

Agreed  :thumleft:
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2010, 10:44:35 am »
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2010, 10:48:35 am »
Maybe its NOYFB?  ;)

maybe - but then if it is then dont make claims about having a trouble free bike or suggesting the bike to others if you dont want to share all the info  ???
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2010, 11:16:17 am »
I really think that the non-disclosure is linked to buyers remorse, but has more to do with ego. A group of unhappy owners full of regret is much better than only yourself feeling like you made a mistake.... ;D
 

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2010, 11:33:29 am »
Dam ta ran out of petrol the other day! Dont know if i.ll ever be able to trust her again!  :)
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2010, 11:34:03 am »
Issues on my bike that I can remember since I had it:

1: Front Shock gone (Replaced under warranty)
2: Oil level glass leaked (Replaced under warranty)
3: Back rim Does not balance completely about 5 grams out
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2010, 11:56:46 am »
R80G/s........too many to mention.  ;D

Only joking. I've replaced almost every wearing part on the bike since I got her. Even that that wasn't broke.

BTW, havent seen any dogs 650 gs's posting the problems some of my friends have had?
Like tailights breaking off and frames breaking??
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2010, 12:04:08 pm »
BTW, havent seen any dogs 650 gs's posting the problems some of my friends have had?
Like tailights breaking off and frames breaking??
Doesnt happen to every one, been riding one around for months now and the only issue thus far is the right front fork seal keep seeping
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2010, 12:06:44 pm »
I found that if you want to know about known issues of a certain model you go to a forum dedicated to that brand / model.

Owners of bikes talk / share more openly about their specific model when talking to other owners of that model, comparing notes etc. (esp. when other brands are not around).

Also, such forums usually does not allow ridicule of that brand / model like might happen on an open forum like this.
 

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2010, 12:07:58 pm »
R80G/s........too many to mention.  ;D

Only joking. I've replaced almost every wearing part on the bike since I got her. Even that that wasn't broke.

BTW, havent seen any dogs 650 gs's posting the problems some of my friends have had?
Like tailights breaking off and frames breaking??

Plastic bits do fall off on very rough trips.  I've lost 3 huggers and have given up replacing them.  I now consider them consumables.

I have seen the mountings of the tail light crack, also due to vibration and have supported mine to prevent it breaking off.  It is rubber mounted so does bounce up and down alot.  

Don't have any problem with the frame though.
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2010, 12:14:17 pm »
I'll delete all my posts re my bike problems in Bikes & Workshop the day I try to sell it.  :biggrin:
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2010, 12:23:18 pm »
I'll delete all my posts re my bike problems in Bikes & Workshop the day I try to sell it.  :biggrin:

we have all seen your bike - rather keep it  :P

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2010, 12:25:33 pm »
Kyk kerels

dis dikwels baie moeilik om te onderskei tussen n probleem wat die bike gee, en n probleem wat veroorsaak is deur n nalatige persoon wat aan hom by n diens gewerk het.

My adventure is nou 8 jaar oud, 70 000km oppie klok. Ekt hom gekoop op 58 000, enigste probleem in my hande, die worm gear op die voorwiel wat die spoed meet. Expensive!!!!!!! Maar ek kannie bewys of dit wear en tear is en of dit iemand was wat hom seergemaak het toe hulle bande omgeruil het nie.

Op die oomblik het ek n diff wat lek, hulle se vir my daars twee seeltjies, een tussen proshaft en diff (R300 labour), een tussen gearbox en proshaft(R 1500 labour). watter een dink julle het gekalf? weet julle hoekom? want my ratkas en diff is met met my 60000 diens moer toe te vol gegooi. Toe ek by hulle aankom om die olie te check omdat dit lek, toe suig hulle sommer nog uit. Die skade is klaar gedoen. Hoe het dit overfill gekry? die bike op sy sy gegooi?

Eks nou sommer die moer in. Ekt spesiaal n BMW gekoop omdat dit n shaftdrive het, soms wens ek ekt n KLR gery.

Oja, ek belowe ek sal alle probleme openbaar aan my mede wille honde.  
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2010, 12:31:50 pm »
eish my xchallenge has had 3batteries in the 12000km's that its been alive.
current battery is one that bmw had sent out a bulitin for.

the wires on the ignition had come loose(at the soldering) and i was left stranded next to the road.

the Vara on the other hand,
no issues witht he bike, although getting to the sparkplugs and air cleaner involves taking off the fuel tank.. and that is a b1tch of a job to do...

my garage and i were both covered in fuel after this ordeal... have t put it all back together 2night.

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2010, 12:36:54 pm »
Kyk kerels

dis dikwels baie moeilik om te onderskei tussen n probleem wat die bike gee, en n probleem wat veroorsaak is deur n nalatige persoon wat aan hom by n diens gewerk het.

My adventure is nou 8 jaar oud, 70 000km oppie klok. Ekt hom gekoop op 58 000, enigste probleem in my hande, die worm gear op die voorwiel wat die spoed meet. Expensive!!!!!!! Maar ek kannie bewys of dit wear en tear is en of dit iemand was wat hom seergemaak het toe hulle bande omgeruil het nie.

Op die oomblik het ek n diff wat lek, hulle se vir my daars twee seeltjies, een tussen proshaft en diff (R300 labour), een tussen gearbox en proshaft(R 1500 labour). watter een dink julle het gekalf? weet julle hoekom? want my ratkas en diff is met met my 60000 diens moer toe te vol gegooi. Toe ek by hulle aankom om die olie te check omdat dit lek, toe suig hulle sommer nog uit. Die skade is klaar gedoen. Hoe het dit overfill gekry? die bike op sy sy gegooi?

Eks nou sommer die moer in. Ekt spesiaal n BMW gekoop omdat dit n shaftdrive het, soms wens ek ekt n KLR gery.

Oja, ek belowe ek sal alle probleme openbaar aan my mede wille honde.  

Is dit'n 3 wiel adventure dat hy 'n diff het? ???
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