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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2010, 03:56:54 pm »

My KTM hasn't given me any reason to lie to anyone yet... 8)

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It's like I haven't had insurance hassles YET.... :biggrin:
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2010, 04:05:46 pm »
BobNob, were you referring to the owners of the lewensgevaarlike bikes keeping so quiet about all the problems
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2010, 04:10:29 pm »
BobNob, were you referring to the owners of the lewensgevaarlike bikes keeping so quiet about all the problems

i know the first generation lewensgevaarlik had lots of issues - but thought they were sorted ???
 

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2010, 04:33:32 pm »
the dealer had to replace the seals on my bike's fork before I bought it- they didn't even notice ... and being a first time buyer I didn't know about the 1000 service... I did however ask the dealer when the first service is and they said roud about 2500km... imagine my disgust when I took it to another dealer for the first service and I was 1000km's overdue.

yes I know I should've read the owner's manual... but I didn't I trusted the dealer!
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2010, 04:35:16 pm »
BobNob, were you referring to the owners of the lewensgevaarlike bikes keeping so quiet about all the problems

i know the first generation lewensgevaarlik had lots of issues - but thought they were sorted ???

I don't know, all I know is all has gone quiet, maybe they have  :thumleft:
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2010, 04:55:35 pm »
I dont get this topic. Is this some kind of moral-high-ground-tell-someone-else-hes-a-tosser thing?  ::) :dummy

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2010, 05:01:45 pm »
I dont get this topic. Is this some kind of moral-high-ground-tell-someone-else-hes-a-tosser thing?  ::) :dummy

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2010, 05:13:15 pm »
I dont get this topic. Is this some kind of moral-high-ground-tell-someone-else-hes-a-tosser thing?  ::) :dummy

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no this is dont be d00s and say your bike is da best and then you hide the k@k you have

Why dont you just tell him directly? or PM him? This looks like an ego thing to me. ;D
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2010, 05:17:07 pm »
I dont get this topic. Is this some kind of moral-high-ground-tell-someone-else-hes-a-tosser thing?  ::) :dummy

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Bobnob if i don't tell you about the problems on my bike how do you know about them. How do you know they even excists. Have you got supernatural powers.

I just replaced the speedo pickup on the 525, but i ques you already knew that ;D
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2010, 06:00:11 pm »
I think the seller should just be honest with the buyer.

In any case, you have to be really VERY dof to sell your bike to another wilddog, knowingly hiding faults. Sooner or later the wilddog will pick it up, start a thread on it and then you feel like a d**s.

I am thinking of selling my one bike, I have not advertised it yet, because it needs some work. I have hinted in threads of people wanting a bike in the price range, that I may be selling soon. I have had quite a few PM's and I listed everything that was repaired, replaced, serviced to the persons requesting the information. I also listed everything that I intend to repair/replace before I sell.

I think the seller just needs to be honest and play open cards. This way he will have a happy future owner of his bike. There is no need to be dishonest and hide things that you KNOW is a problem or going to be a problem in the future.

It's all about integrity.

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2010, 06:35:58 pm »
1. Battery died at 9000kms. Bought BMW gel - now 62 000km and still strong.
2. Pivot bearings on swingarm replaced as precaution on 45 000km.
3. Clutch release bearing started whining on 60 000 kms. Replaced whole slave cylinder R2500 !  :o

Lots of fuel, tyres and maintenance. Still a happy chappy.   :thumleft:

touch wood i'm still on the original battery on my bike 50 000km later  :ricky:

don't hold your breath there sister, my Dakar's battery went dead at 50000km, replaced it last week  :imaposer:

It's a old story the KTM oke's are the culprits we know it since way back when this forum started, ask AdventureMX even he knows of a few cases.  ;) :peepwall: 
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2010, 06:36:53 pm »
I just replaced the speedo pickup on the 525, but i ques you already knew that ;D

finally  ::)

i was wondering if you are going to own up to it  :P

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2010, 06:39:39 pm »
Knopkop, youre right. I think if youre sensible as a buyer you can pick up hidden things easily enough. But if youre not careful you might be in for a supplies.
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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2010, 06:48:07 pm »
don't hold your breath there sister, my Dakar's battery went dead at 50000km, replaced it last week  :imaposer:

no man dont jinx it  >:(

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2010, 06:50:10 pm »
I would never suggest anybody buying a HP2, they are too unreliable, expensive and real poser bike to own :ricky:

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2010, 06:53:23 pm »
i think it probably boils down to self confidence and the ability to eat humble pie

if you say - my bike and brand is da best - so good nothing can touch it and then tomorrow it seizes solid you will probably not live it down if you share that with us  :biggrin:
 

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2010, 06:58:45 pm »
Bobnob as soon as my bike has a problem I'll let you know ;D
 

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2010, 07:00:54 pm »
Bobnob as soon as my bike has a problem I'll let you know ;D

any problems with the previous bike you want to confess to us ???

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2010, 07:04:09 pm »
Ok I'll admit, late last month the nut that connects the steering assembly to the seat fell of my bike again, and broke. It was made of poor quality materials and the repair process is in week five now. Apparently it's going to take another 4 weeks. Kak workmanship I tell you.

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Re: why the lying and withholding of information?
« Reply #79 on: February 02, 2010, 07:09:28 pm »
Bobnob as soon as my bike has a problem I'll let you know ;D

any problems with the previous bike you want to confess to us ???

we are here for you  :thumleft:

Aaaah thanks.

Nothing I havent stated before. Stone chipped my one fork once. Insurance fixed it. Stone damaged my radiator - insurance fixed it.

Uhmm. What else? Rear TKC only lasted 6000km and Heidi didn't want to balance. Sorry - all of this has been posted by me before. Nothing else to confess I'm afraid.