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Plunging into the Rally scene
« on: February 19, 2010, 06:33:17 am »
Watching the Dakar every year always makes me want to get on my bike and ride off-piste until it hurts.  ::) And when I do it, I get an amazing satisfaction from it: You know, the kind where you find you can hardly move for two days afterwards from being tired and sore. Now I want to do this now more often with other similar minded masochists. :whip2:

The obvious answer is to start rally racing. Not enduros or MX, but long days and big distances of hard, technical, off piste riding.  :ricky:

So this will be my n00bŽs rally update thread where I will plot my progress as I venture into this rather daunting world of "Camel-man" riders for those of you who want to follow my journey.  :komet:

IŽll be including lots of details on the bike, the preparation, the licencing, the problems encoutered etc. so hopefully someone can learn from my mistakes and discoveries!

I would be most grateful for any wise words of advice, encouragement or warning  :patch: you may have.



My plan is finish at least one rally this year, probably the Dos Sertoes in August, check it out HERE. This rally is 10 days of ±300km technical riding per day. Its pretty daunting for me I must say!  But I know if I put my mind to it and prepare properly I can finish. Thats the only target I am setting myself for now. To just finish.

A bit about me:
IŽm a budding 25 yr old trapped in a 38yr old body. Its tough, but what can you do - You have to work with what you have. Im reasonably riding fit, can do a long, difficult dirt sessions on my 800GS no problem. But I can only do a few hours of hard, off-piste, enduro style rallying on my wifeŽs KTM 450 EXC before I am totally shagged. So IŽneed to build up my fitness. Im not a gym kind of guy, looking gay in tights and flexing my muscles in the mirror is really not my thing. I guess Im going to have to learn to get over my dislike of gyms at some stage in the near future. Well worry about the tights later ;D In the meantime Ive started a couple of basic fitness improvement programs: 100 pushups per day (right now I can only do 20! :eek7:) and 200 situps/crunches. I plan to be there in 6 weeks.  From there on I guess IŽll have to go to a gym. Im going to start riding enduro style at least 3 times/week as well.

I also need to eat less fat & grease, drink less beer and also less whiskey n coke!  :-\  Basically Mr Lardass needs to turn into He-man.

A bit about my ride:

Im in the market for a second hand rally bike, but theyre hard to find, so I looked around at whats ridden out there:

Honda 450
Honda 600
KTM 450/520
KTM 690/650
Husaberg 530
Husqavarna 450?
Sherco 450
Yamaha 450
<edit> o ja, the BMW 450 but maybe not after only 1 of 4 finished the Dakar.. :deal:
I am most likely going to buy one of these:







And then prep it into one of these:




Im still open to advice in choosing the bike, I need to make a decision by the end of next week. Why did I choose a Yammie 450? Its light; IŽll be able to pick it up more times than a 690 before IŽm totally pooped. Its easier to ride and control than a bigger bike. The rally kit is narrower between the knees and more balanced than the KTM, or Honda counterparts and the kit is fairly easily availible. Its a reliable machine that is fairly common on the big rally circuits, so spares are not an issue.

Once I have the bike, then I need to have it prepped and ready by mid April, IŽll be attending a rally "training school" in Arizona in Mid April. So there is lots to do.

Thats it for now.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2010, 07:15:09 am by BlueBull2007 »
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 06:46:00 am »
Sterkte Partner en geniet dit - Ek het vir jou 'n PitBike wat jy mee kan kom oefen in RSA.

One of the exercises you can try is to take your bike for a run. eg find an open stretch of road and push it (make sure the bike is in neutral). Was one of the fitness exercises I've done many many moons ago when I was stil young and beautifull and dabelling in the MX scene. Baleeeve me it works.
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 06:47:03 am »
Wow some serious aspirations there!!

Can't help with choice of bike but good luck and remember to enjoy every second. :ricky:
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 06:51:06 am »
Blixem.... :o but you are serious?!?!

Good luck and enjoy. It is probably every okes dream but very few will ever make it happen....

Good on you :thumleft: :ricky:
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 07:35:44 am »
You gotta do it - you won' regret a minute - so good luck and keep us posted
 

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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 07:43:20 am »
Respect BB, cant wait for the updates!  :thumleft:
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 07:54:44 am »
Good luck BB. Cant wait to see a WD on  TV.
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 09:01:03 am »
awesome! :D

Will keep an eye on this thread for sure
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 09:15:53 am »
Drop Albert Hintenaus a line on  alberth@coastalengineering.co.za
http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=5221636&fSectionId=942&fSetId=381
He has done a few Dakars & Rallye Raids.
He gave a lecture the other night at KTM & seems willing to introduce guys into Rallye :thumleft:
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2010, 09:37:15 am »
Good luck to you!  You're a brave man.
 

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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2010, 10:48:12 am »
Blue Bull

looking at the back of the pack riders in the Dakar, compared to the front runners, there is a vast difference in how the bikes are kitted.

What is the minimum in terms of fuel range, instrumentation etc. that is required?

(BTW...This and the "Riding on a different continent" thread of yours, put in the same pot and stir...serve.  :thumleft:)
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2010, 10:50:59 am »
Blue Bull

looking at the back of the pack riders in the Dakar, compared to the front runners, there is a vast difference in how the bikes are kitted.

What is the minimum in terms of fuel range, instrumentation etc. that is required?

(BTW...This and the "Riding on a different continent" thread of yours, put in the same pot and stir...serve.  :thumleft:)
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2010, 12:44:28 pm »
True Blue - Yamaha 450 WR450F....! good luck with your endeavour BB!
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2010, 12:52:30 pm »
where will you order the 2 wheel drive WR from?
 

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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2010, 12:59:49 pm »
If you not going all the way, why go at all?

I am envious.
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2010, 03:48:05 pm »
Thanks for all the feedback so far!  :thumleft:

Sterkte Partner en geniet dit - Ek het vir jou 'n PitBike wat jy mee kan kom oefen in RSA.

One of the exercises you can try is to take your bike for a run. eg find an open stretch of road and push it (make sure the bike is in neutral). Was one of the fitness exercises I've done many many moons ago when I was stil young and beautifull and dabelling in the MX scene. Baleeeve me it works.

Dankie ou maat! I appreciate the gesture too, though Im not sure IŽll be back in SA to take advantage of it before the Sertoes!! How is that bike going by the way?

Running with your bike, its going to be embarressing but it will work.

Drop Albert Hintenaus a line on  alberth@coastalengineering.co.za
Pete

Thanks for that Pete.  :thumleft: I didnt know about Albert, IŽll definitely get in touch with him!

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looking at the back of the pack riders in the Dakar, compared to the front runners, there is a vast difference in how the bikes are kitted.

What is the minimum in terms of fuel range, instrumentation etc. that is required?

(BTW...This and the "Riding on a different continent" thread of yours, put in the same pot and stir...serve.  :thumleft:)

LOL sorry about all the  :pot:

Minimum fuel range is typically around 200km but its depends what rally raid youre doing. The Dakar is the ultimate, and for that you need 30L of fuel at least. Thats at least two tanks, normally 3. A 20l tank is ok for most rallies, then again, if youre riding in dunes and stuff, your fuel consumption is much higher...

You also need an roadbook, a IRITRACK Gps holder (the IRITRACK is provided by organisation), ICO odometer (normally 2), ICO cap (electronic compass), and in some cases a sentinel as well (safety radio and tracking system). I guess thats the miminum you need, and the changes to the fairing to fit tht all in. But youre also looking at doing other stuff too:

Upgrade front & rear suspension;
Steering damper;
foam grips;
HID head light;
wider footpegs;
Upgrade seat;
Upgrade battery;
Replace/add wiring & harnessing;
replace rear cush drive;
Oil cooler;
Emergency drinking Water tank (3l); (Required)
Toolbox, both water tank & toolbox can be built into the bashplate;
extra brake light;
bigger radiator + electric fans;
engine & clutch guards;
reinforced front rims

The list is endless.

where will you order the 2 wheel drive WR from?

IŽm still open to options, but at this stage Im looking at buying it in California and getting it done up there. I would love to do it myself, but I think the logistics herein Peru make it almost impossible and nearly double the price!
 
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2010, 05:46:16 pm »
Good luck BB!! I wish I can ride good enough to do something like this.
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2010, 06:33:20 pm »
Awesome.....!
Like you said - watching the Dakar really makes you feel I gotta do that
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2010, 07:34:18 pm »
Vrek but thats funny! :imaposer: :imaposer:
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Re: Plunging into the Rally scene
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2010, 09:56:02 pm »
fark this is awesome!!!

Best of luck man, you are very fortunate to be in a position to be able to attempt this feat.

when you make it big, i will tell everyone, that i was fortunate to share some dirt with mr Bluebull2007, multistage dakar winner.

looking forward to your chronicles.