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DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« on: May 22, 2010, 01:55:27 pm »
my brother has a suzuki DRZ400E.
recently he's noticed a bit of white/grey residue around the dipstick. we suspect some coolant has mixed with the oil, but there has not been a noticeable drop in the coolant level.

could it possibly be due to water/condensation somehow mixing with the oil?
and if not could it possibly be a water pump seal or would the head gasket be the primary suspect here?   :-\

the bike has just short of 16000km on the clock.

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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 02:05:35 pm »
Sounds like water in the oil   :-\
 

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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 02:19:45 pm »
Sounds like water in the oil   :-\

What does water in the oil sound like?  :peepwall:

Yeah Grego I`d change the oil and see if the the oil does the same, but best to check the water pump seals, the head gasket is also a good place to check ass you mentioned . . . .

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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2010, 02:36:50 pm »
Sounds like water in the oil   :-\

What does water in the oil sound like?  :peepwall:

Yeah Grego I`d change the oil and see if the the oil does the same, but best to check the water pump seals, the head gasket is also a good place to check ass you mentioned . . . .

Good luck  :thumleft:
so it is possible for water to mix with oil via the water pump then? wan't sure if it could happen on this motor.
it only started doing it recently... the oil was clean before (under 1000km since the last change).
 

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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2010, 02:48:48 pm »
I would simply do an oil change first and see if the oil gets this way again soon. When we ride dirt bikes, sometimes water is sucked up through the crank case breather and it makes the oil white/grey.

If the oil goes white again soon, it's more likely to be the seal behind the water pump. This is also a lot cheaper to fix than the head gasket with less effort so rather go that route.

If the problem still occurs, then I would look at the head gasket. Note that in very extreme circumstances, you could have a crack in the head but I think it's not likely.

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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2010, 04:17:37 pm »
If the coolant level does not drop it's unlikely to be that. If the waterpump leaks you will see coolant on the outside of the motor (search rtv fix for DRZ). Maybe from a recent wash or watercrossing ?
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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2010, 04:45:45 pm »
It could simply be too many short distance trips, and no longer trip to heat up the engine and oil properly, so the water condensation does not evaporate and burn away. This happens in winter with lower temps. Had the same with the KLE when the office was 1k away from home.

Change the oil and monitor. Try and do longer trips if short trips is the cause.
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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2010, 06:51:43 pm »
i also think it might be due to rain/condensation.
no signs of leakage around the water pump.
i think we'll start with an oil change and take it from there.

we did change the spark plug recently. they didn't have the one that came out of the bike in stock, so we a slightly colder plug... could that have caused any issues?
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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2010, 06:56:30 pm »
Spark plug will not cause that in the oil IMO, you'll just see a diff on the plug itself, and maybe performance.
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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2010, 07:49:35 pm »
What moedl is it? Thers's been some 2005 and 2006 models that had a problem with the coolant reacting with magnesium in the clutch cover eventualy coroding right through at the water pump with water ending uo in oil. Loosen your water pump's 4 little bolts and twist it to reveal the port for the water and see if it is gunked up. Good luck.
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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 01:00:48 am »
What moedl is it? Thers's been some 2005 and 2006 models that had a problem with the coolant reacting with magnesium in the clutch cover eventualy coroding right through at the water pump with water ending uo in oil. Loosen your water pump's 4 little bolts and twist it to reveal the port for the water and see if it is gunked up. Good luck.
its a 2003 model. will do an oil change and remove and inspect the water pump at the same time.
 

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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2010, 11:38:40 am »
Heat sludge.
Change oil more frequently and  / or use better quality oil.
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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2010, 01:25:18 pm »
Heat sludge.
Change oil more frequently and  / or use better quality oil.

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Re: DRZ400E - white/grey residue in oil
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2010, 08:33:29 pm »
i think he's using castrol actevo 4T... not sure what grade.
will do an oil change and see how it goes.