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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #200 on: June 24, 2010, 03:41:31 pm »
thanks, it's great to know such a bunch of trashy sub culture bikers care about each other.  :biggrin:

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #201 on: June 24, 2010, 04:02:03 pm »
Michnus, I'm very glad to hear that you're ok. We arrived at the bash after sending Andy660 on a helicopter flip, only to hear from Metal Jockey that you'd bitten the dust too. Put a real dampener on things.

As for the cause of your accident:
Before I purchased my 800GS, I very briefly owned a second hand 2006 1200GS. It had a problem with the brake servo, exactly as you describe - lights on and constant whining. I only rode it in this state to get it home, and most of the time, it behaved as it was designed to when there is a problem with the servo or the ABS; i.e. residual manual braking. However, twice on my way home (at very low speed luckily), while slowing, the servo assist suddenly applied full pressure on the front, and slammed my nuts against the tank. It sounds like this is what happened to you, but at much higher speed, and with catastrophic consequences.

I did some research on the various 1200 forums, and found that this is an unusual, but by no means unique problem. I got rid of the bike very quickly, and will never again have anything to do with a bike that has electric brake assist. What a moronic concept for an adventure bike in particular. BMW obviously realised that it was a bad idea, since they did away with the electric servo on subsequent models.

Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #202 on: June 24, 2010, 04:04:45 pm »
Michnus, I'm very glad to hear that you're ok. We arrived at the bash after sending Andy660 on a helicopter flip, only to hear from Metal Jockey that you'd bitten the dust too. Put a real dampener on things.

As for the cause of your accident:
Before I purchased my 800GS, I very briefly owned a second hand 2006 1200GS. It had a problem with the brake servo, exactly as you describe - lights on and constant whining. I only rode it in this state to get it home, and most of the time, it behaved as it was designed to when there is a problem with the servo or the ABS; i.e. residual manual braking. However, twice on my way home (at very low speed luckily), while slowing, the servo assist suddenly applied full pressure on the front, and slammed my nuts against the tank. It sounds like this is what happened to you, but at much higher speed, and with catastrophic consequences.

I did some research on the various 1200 forums, and found that this is an unusual, but by no means unique problem. I got rid of the bike very quickly, and will never again have anything to do with a bike that has electric brake assist. What a moronic concept for an adventure bike in particular. BMW obviously realised that it was a bad idea, since they did away with the electric servo on subsequent models.

Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?

If you remove the servos, you remove your brakes  :-\
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #203 on: June 24, 2010, 04:20:40 pm »
Michnus, I'm very glad to hear that you're ok. We arrived at the bash after sending Andy660 on a helicopter flip, only to hear from Metal Jockey that you'd bitten the dust too. Put a real dampener on things.

As for the cause of your accident:
Before I purchased my 800GS, I very briefly owned a second hand 2006 1200GS. It had a problem with the brake servo, exactly as you describe - lights on and constant whining. I only rode it in this state to get it home, and most of the time, it behaved as it was designed to when there is a problem with the servo or the ABS; i.e. residual manual braking. However, twice on my way home (at very low speed luckily), while slowing, the servo assist suddenly applied full pressure on the front, and slammed my nuts against the tank. It sounds like this is what happened to you, but at much higher speed, and with catastrophic consequences.

I did some research on the various 1200 forums, and found that this is an unusual, but by no means unique problem. I got rid of the bike very quickly, and will never again have anything to do with a bike that has electric brake assist. What a moronic concept for an adventure bike in particular. BMW obviously realised that it was a bad idea, since they did away with the electric servo on subsequent models.

Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?

It might have been........and or added to the problem.  :-\

I am getting a bit gatvol off all this stront, every time a battery sneezes, my ABS or servo's or HID light goes on the blink, and it has happened to both the bikes varies times.
It makes it difficult to trace problems and eventually what do you shrug off as rubbish and what  do you take serious? It's like listening to cry wolf stories every now and then.


Bike fell on it's right side and slide the 30m down the road and into barriers.



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Light housing ans frame all busted. Front wheel broken, forks broken and so on, and so on..

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #204 on: June 24, 2010, 04:23:02 pm »
Elaborate a little on the "so on".
 

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #205 on: June 24, 2010, 04:26:23 pm »
Now you have me really worried about my 2005 GS . . . .  :'(  Can the servo system be removed at all?

This isn't the norm - I've got a 2005 and I'm not worried.

When it starts blinking it's lights at you is when you have cause.

My opinion anyway.

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #206 on: June 24, 2010, 04:26:47 pm »
Sheez M - good crashbars that...

02/02/12 - RIP Glen - the Arrow of Elliot and the little man with the big heart that truly was larger than life.

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #207 on: June 24, 2010, 04:31:31 pm »
Hei psssssst! Michnus!

Hierdie bike het shaft drive, tubeless bande, 21-duim voorwiel, 1200cc en geen servo/ABS kak nie... hoe lyk dit?  >:D

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #208 on: June 24, 2010, 04:43:31 pm »
Hei psssssst! Michnus!

Hierdie bike het shaft drive, tubeless bande, 21-duim voorwiel, 1200cc en geen servo/ABS kak nie... hoe lyk dit?  >:D



Seconded. This was my solution for replacement when my 1200 servo assist, ABS etc decided to have a mind of its own and throttle stuck open and then front breaks appeared to lock ... the breaks may have been me with a big right fist full with ABS off but all goes pear shaped very fast ... as Mich I am sure wil, attest. What I can say is that on my Adv I discovered that the whining story from servo was due to dirt and binding of the micro-switch within the RHS break lever assembly. Very easy to get gunged up and narrow tolerances (and very small screws!).

On another tack, Michnus I believe that fork may have been missing the pinch bolt? In which case could the axle not have backed out and the wheel then have twisted, jammed, broken the fork leg at that spot???
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #209 on: June 24, 2010, 04:49:22 pm »
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

scrapes here and there, broken flickers all just stuff that will increase the repair bill cosmetics. Amazingly no engine damage or final drive or rear end damage.

Jaaaaaaaaa Jaco.  :biggrin:

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #210 on: June 24, 2010, 05:20:17 pm »
Fix of Fuct!
 

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #211 on: June 24, 2010, 09:04:20 pm »
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #212 on: June 24, 2010, 09:12:30 pm »
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Nah, these days we just smile knowingly..... :peepwall: :biggrin:

It won't be long and the Super Tenere okes will be joining the Katoom okes on this bandwagon.... :biggrin:
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #213 on: June 25, 2010, 07:59:32 am »
Phew M, sorry to hear about your tumble ... Glad you are ok  :biggrin:.

When I see that glove ... I wish my son had been wearing his when he had his off.  Wow - that helmet sure took a serious bash.  Luckily hubby also rides with one of those.  :thumleft:  :thumleft:

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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #214 on: June 25, 2010, 08:51:26 am »
Glad to hear that you are okay.

Get well soon, hate to say it, but get a KTM next time.  ;)
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #215 on: June 25, 2010, 08:54:04 am »
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Trust me, I have inside knowledge.

Michnus isn't a poephol.  ;)
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« Reply #216 on: June 25, 2010, 09:28:16 am »
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.


Fooook are you referring to the pinch bolt that secures the axle that was missing??
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« Reply #217 on: June 25, 2010, 10:26:44 am »
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.


Fooook are you referring to the pinch bolt that secures the axle that was missing??

Shhhh..  :-\
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Re: Michnus Down !!!
« Reply #218 on: June 25, 2010, 10:29:44 am »
Fok I can hear the KTM okes already :eek7:

Trust me, I have inside knowledge.

Michnus isn't a poephol.  ;)

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« Reply #219 on: June 25, 2010, 03:18:00 pm »
Elaborate a little on the "so on".

Bigdom, yes, it was part of the problem, it's which happened first that's the question.


Fooook are you referring to the pinch bolt that secures the axle that was missing??

Shhhh..  :-\

hehehe and also.  ;)

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