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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #120 on: July 15, 2010, 11:27:03 pm »

I am just waiting for some more pics, will post some more in due course.   


SGB, you mention:

-   Police clearance for vehicle
-   Proof of vehicle insurance in Angola

Were it checked? 
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2010, 08:16:11 am »

I am just waiting for some more pics, will post some more in due course.   


SGB, you mention:

-   Police clearance for vehicle
-   Proof of vehicle insurance in Angola

Were it checked? 

Police clearance was checked at the border when we entered.  Insurance was on the list of requirements, we were never asked to show it.
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #122 on: July 16, 2010, 09:23:23 am »
Police clearance was checked at the border when we entered.  Insurance was on the list of requirements, we were never asked to show it.

Thx...I sent you the map btw.

Hopefully you have settled back by now, I know for one, when I come back I always go through a phase where I think why bother? The way I explained it to my wife (the reason why I do come back) was "post natal depression"   ;D
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #123 on: July 16, 2010, 01:08:48 pm »
Great RR SGB.

I was actually surprised that the Governor of Cuito Cuanavale asked if any of you were in the SADF. I wonder what she would have done if you said yes. I thought that it should have been bygones by now. Another thing I found very interesting is that the Cubans were under the impression that the SAFD lost the war in Angola against FAPLA. I mean, the Cubans were there 1983, they should know better. Not that it matters much, maybe just their interpretation.

Are there lots of changes in Angola ±30 years on? I remember, we used to operate north of the Kunene at Xangongo, and to me Angola was then a beautiful wild place to be. We used to see elephant tracks, but never an Elephant.

As Berm_Rooster said, I would definitely put an Angola trip on my bucketlist.

Thanks again for a great report
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #124 on: July 16, 2010, 01:32:59 pm »
Extracts from Fidel Castro's speech during the 30th anniversary of the Cuban military mission in Angola:

"Titanic efforts by the Cuban political and military high command, despite the serious threat of hostilities which hung over us as well, resulted in assembling the forces needed to deliver a decisive blow against the South African forces. As in 1975, our homeland rose to the occasion. A flood of troops and weaponry rapidly crossed the Atlantic, landing on Angola's south coast in order to attack in the south west, in the direction of Namibia. At the same time, 800 km to the east, special units advanced towards Cuito Cuanavale, where they joined up with retreating Angolan forces to set up a lethal trap for the powerful South African forces heading for that large airbase.

This time, Cuban troops in Angola numbered 55,000.

So while in Cuito Cuanavale the South African troops were bled, to the southwest 40,000 Cuban and 30,000 Angolan troops, supported by some 600 tanks, hundreds of pieces of artillery, 1,000 anti-aircraft weapons and the daring MIG-23 units that secured air supremacy, advanced towards the Namibian border, ready to literally sweep up the South African forces deployed along that main route.

A great deal could be said about all the engagements and incidents in that campaign.

Here with us are Comrade Polo Cinta Frías, the bold commander of the Angola southern front at that time, and many comrades who took part in the actions of those glorious, unforgettable days.

The resounding victories in Cuito Cuanavale, especially the devastating advance by the powerful Cuban contingent in southwest Angola, spelled the end of foreign aggression.

The enemy had to set aside its usual arrogance and sit down at the negotiating table. The talks culminated in the Peace Accords for Southern Africa, signed by South Africa, Angola and Cuba at the UN headquarters in December 1988. "
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #125 on: July 16, 2010, 02:14:05 pm »
Interesting, maybe we did not loose the war, we just quit while ahead. :happy11:

Thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #126 on: July 16, 2010, 04:26:21 pm »
Man what a great trip -and report !   :drif:  thanks for posting and muchas respect guys  :thumleft:

Now I also have a burning desire to do this trip  , but I need much more sand riding experience , and stamina , and mechanical knowledge , geez this trip is not for wuzzies hey !  :ricky: :ricky: Let me go and start practising  ;)
 

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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #127 on: July 17, 2010, 12:40:13 am »
On winning or losing battles and wars - all sides usually claim that they have actually won the war
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #128 on: July 17, 2010, 09:27:13 am »
Awesome! Loved every moment of it.  :thumleft:
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #129 on: July 17, 2010, 10:37:48 pm »
SGB - What a trip.  Thanks for sending me the link to this site.  Now I have two "problem" sites, this one and the land cruiser club one. Interesting to hear about the hunger for bibles. Good reason to go back.......
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #130 on: July 21, 2010, 07:26:41 pm »
What an awesome trip.  Thanks for sharing.  Just read another one what one of the others wrote.  These are very trips and makes me want to move back - well to do the trips.
 

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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #131 on: July 24, 2010, 04:10:53 pm »
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #132 on: July 24, 2010, 05:37:21 pm »
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #133 on: July 24, 2010, 07:34:33 pm »
On winning or losing battles and wars - all sides usually claim that they have actually won the war

... but end up losing.
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #134 on: July 25, 2010, 06:02:05 pm »
On winning or losing battles and wars - all sides usually claim that they have actually won the war

... but end up losing.

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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #135 on: July 26, 2010, 10:24:16 am »
Very nice RR.
 

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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #136 on: July 26, 2010, 01:52:40 pm »
Nice RR. Thanks
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #137 on: July 31, 2010, 05:54:33 pm »
Thank you for this lovely RR.
I am starting a bike support with a Unimog and Unimog trailer for trips accross Southern africa. Off the beaten track.
Everything will go into the Mog & trailer. All the rider takes on the bike is himself.
I know a liot of riders will disagree with this idea, but getting older makes it more difficult to take gear on the bike for such a long trip.
 

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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #138 on: August 01, 2010, 09:36:02 am »
Thank you for this lovely RR.
I am starting a bike support with a Unimog and Unimog trailer for trips accross Southern africa. Off the beaten track.
Everything will go into the Mog & trailer. All the rider takes on the bike is himself.
I know a liot of riders will disagree with this idea, but getting older makes it more difficult to take gear on the bike for such a long trip.

Keep us posted, age and old bones are a terrible thing :biggrin: :biggrin:
Would like to know costs etc. thanks
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Re: Angola Doodsakker Ekspedisie Jun 2010
« Reply #139 on: August 03, 2010, 02:32:24 pm »
Baie dankie SGB vir uitstekende RR - die gevoelens en herinneringe wat n ou ervaar laat my terugdink aan die tye, as jong laaitie, toe ek PJ Schoeman se boeke gelees het ....! Hierdie is ook een van daardie groot adventure trips waarvan die meeste van ons net kan droom. :thumleft: :thumleft:
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