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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2010, 11:48:12 am »
Metaljockey showed on his Ten report how far it took to brake with and without the ABS on the Ten. Jan disabled it on the Angola trip. It's obvious that's it's ABS is still not correct for dirt ON.

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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2010, 01:01:51 pm »
How to switch the ABS off on any bike; rip the brain out and throw it in the bin.
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2010, 01:16:34 pm »
Sten so advanced that a simple on/off button cannot be used?

Sten doesn't need an on off button, it's easy to disable the ABS - come on man - just put it on the centre stand, start, shift into 3rd, accelerate, brake, accelerate, shift into 2nd, get on bike, rock forward, accelerate, clutch in, clutch out, accelerate, rub your tummy, pat your head, rock the bike off the stand and there you go - what could be simpler?
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Sorry Wes, i got lost at "pat your head", just gotta admit, I am to stupid to ride a Sten

I'm glad you're honest.  It took you to Stibaai and back to figure out your GSA traction control :pot:


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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2010, 01:21:44 pm »
I will give you an up-date how it goes on Monday, after I have played around with the settings on Sunday.

I'm really looking forward to it, I just hope that i don't damage anything  ???

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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2010, 01:28:17 pm »
Sten so advanced that a simple on/off button cannot be used?

Sten doesn't need an on off button, it's easy to disable the ABS - come on man - just put it on the centre stand, start, shift into 3rd, accelerate, brake, accelerate, shift into 2nd, get on bike, rock forward, accelerate, clutch in, clutch out, accelerate, rub your tummy, pat your head, rock the bike off the stand and there you go - what could be simpler?
 :peepwall:


Sorry Wes, i got lost at "pat your head", just gotta admit, I am to stupid to ride a Sten

I'm glad you're honest.  It took you to Stibaai and back to figure out your GSA traction control :pot:

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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2010, 09:15:10 pm »
Sten so advanced that a simple on/off button cannot be used?

Sten doesn't need an on off button, it's easy to disable the ABS - come on man - just put it on the centre stand, start, shift into 3rd, accelerate, brake, accelerate, shift into 2nd, get on bike, rock forward, accelerate, clutch in, clutch out, accelerate, rub your tummy, pat your head, rock the bike off the stand and there you go - what could be simpler?
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2010, 09:16:04 pm »
Metaljockey showed on his Ten report how far it took to brske with and without the ABS on the Ten. Jan disabled it on the Anhola trip. It's obvious thats it's ABS is still not correct for dirt ON.



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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2010, 09:24:27 am »
I beg to differ, how many riders actually know how to brake properly in an emergency anyway? Jan is an expert, and preferred to use his own skill rather than the bike's electronics, I have tried the ABS in an emergency situation...it DOES work, and very well. For the average rider the system is fine, unlike the BMW and the KTM, which have more of a 'runaway' situation with ABS on.

Try it before you knock it.....
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2010, 10:33:27 am »
Adventurer & CS: The way I approach this ABS /non-ABS arguement is to liken it to a DSLR.

A noob will take the best pictures in AUTO.
As the skills increase you get to a point where you get the same quality of photo's when selected to MANUAL.
And then, much later, you get to a point where you take better photo's in MANUAL than in AUTO. You have total control and you can get the effects you desire. :thumleft:

And that is, in bike terms, where Jan Staal and the likes fit in.

If you are a reasonably experienced rider you might be happy riding with the ST's ABS on. But then again, you might want to aspire to the next level.

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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2010, 05:51:42 pm »
Possibly, but a lot of pro photographers also leave the camera on 'auto', and modify the picture later in Photoshop..... :biggrin:
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2010, 08:18:20 am »
Well on Sunday i did not go off road with my Super 10  >:(

BUT i did have a much better time joining 30 + BMWs on their beakfast run.

LOL, I was passing those GS1200 on the OUT SIDE of the corners going up Eshowe and Melmoth pass.  :imaposer:

i don't think they liked that, a Super 10 Duffing-up their GS1200's.  :ricky:

It was good fun thou.

I did not make any comments to the BMW riders, but two of them said to me "WOW that bike corners, really well"

I just said  "yes it does"
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2010, 09:05:54 am »
Eish, I was only joking when I told you to pass them on the outside you naughty bugger.
 

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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2010, 09:24:11 am »
Metaljockey showed on his Ten report how far it took to brake with and without the ABS on the Ten. Jan disabled it on the Angola trip. It's obvious that's it's ABS is still not correct for dirt ON.


I did about 120 on dirt with Wanabe's S10 with the wife on the back and decided to slam on the brakes just for the hell of it. The bike came to a very controlled stop in a very respectable distance. I think that is the purpose of the ABS. Yamaha has never laid claim that it will outbrake anything or anybody. It will be posible for a competent rider to outbrake the ABS in controlled circumstances but if you do long distance gravel touring and had to deal with the unexpected I would definatily prefer the ABS of the S10. A simple uncomplicated on off switch would be preferable though.
The traction controll on semi is lekka funstuff.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2010, 09:26:14 am »
Just buy a GS :peepwall:

OMG!!!! Clearly another one that HAS NOT ridden a Super Ten.....Ride one, then come talk again.....

Or a KTM
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2010, 09:28:07 am »
How to disable the ABS on a BMW (or KTM for that matter) - press the "ABS" button...  :deal:

How do you turn it on on a Huskybanana?
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2010, 09:55:22 am »
Metaljockey showed on his Ten report how far it took to brake with and without the ABS on the Ten. Jan disabled it on the Angola trip. It's obvious that's it's ABS is still not correct for dirt ON.


I did about 120 on dirt with Wanabe's S10 with the wife on the back and decided to slam on the brakes just for the hell of it. The bike came to a very controlled stop in a very respectable distance. I think that is the purpose of the ABS. Yamaha has never laid claim that it will outbrake anything or anybody. It will be posible for a competent rider to outbrake the ABS in controlled circumstances but if you do long distance gravel touring and had to deal with the unexpected I would definatily prefer the ABS of the S10. A simple uncomplicated on off switch would be preferable though.
The traction controll on semi is lekka funstuff.  :thumleft:

You will stop shorter with ABS off. What is respectable distance, just short off flying off the road? You need to compare
with non-ABS.
Correct, they have never laid claim to it, riding on dirt you do it with ABS OFF, because your stopping distances is shorter.
You need to b a competent rider, the ABS is not there to save your ass on dirt but on tar.
Do you compare it to a non ABS bike or other ABS bikes?

Is this important or not really?

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All riders however, need to be able to stop rapidly from time to time. It may be because you are too fast for the terrain and comes across a cement culvert at 120km/h, it may be because on our rural roads you at one time or another, are going to have to make a panic strop, be it for sheep, cattle, kids or some skedonk making a u-turn.

I did a quick test to illustrate what I knew would happen. I did a series of stops from 80km/h, three with no ABS and two with ABS. In this picture, the bikes in the rear are standing where I stopped the bike under my own power, letting the rear slide and modulating the front when it started sliding. In the forefront there is a can on the ground, that is where the ABS were able to eventually stop the bike with both brakes fully engaged
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2010, 10:03:34 am »
Just buy a GS :peepwall:

OMG!!!! Clearly another one that HAS NOT ridden a Super Ten.....Ride one, then come talk again.....
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2010, 10:11:08 am »
Just buy a GS :peepwall:

OMG!!!! Clearly another one that HAS NOT ridden a Super Ten.....Ride one, then come talk again.....
or a KLR  :biggrin:

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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2010, 10:11:37 am »
Just buy a GS :peepwall:

OMG!!!! Clearly another one that HAS NOT ridden a Super Ten.....Ride one, then come talk again.....

Or a KTM

Can i borrow yours? :D
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Re: You Can Turn Off Super Tenere ABS
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2010, 10:13:59 am »
You can turn off your ABS without removing the sensors on the wheels !!

Watch this video....... It does work !

(1)Put the bike on the main stand
(2) start the bike
(3) click into 2nd gear
(4) rev the bike above 3000rpm until the ABS light stops flashing and remains a solid colour. The Engine management will come on.
(5) test ride it, it does work  :biggrin:

To switch the ABS back on
(1) Turn off the bike with key
(2) Turn bike back on and ride away slowly for 30 meters
(3) The ABS light and Engine management light turns off

I'm going to have some good fun this weekend  :biggrin:

Would a button that you can switch it off or on not be a easier option. You know, like on a BMW.