Author Topic: Replacing my Klr with a Dakar. Should I ? (Read 1136 times)

Saddle Up · « **on:** August 10, 2010, 08:37:10 pm »

I have a super trusty 07 Klr in a great condition with all nuts and bolts in tact and no hassels at all. But for some reason the Dakar has always lured me. So much so, that I passed over a perfect KTM 640 recently. What say the Dogs. Should I let my Klr go for the Dakar?

Ronsard · « **Reply #1 on:** August 10, 2010, 08:40:12 pm »

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=54282.0

JamesXRV · « **Reply #2 on:** August 10, 2010, 08:47:35 pm »

Quote from: Saddle Up on August 10, 2010, 08:37:10 pm

I have a super trusty 07 Klr in a great condition with all nuts and bolts in tact and no hassles at all. But for some reason the Dakar has always lured me. So much so, that I passed over a perfect KTM 640 recently. What say the Dogs. Should I let my Klr go for the Dakar?

IMHO the Rotax/BMW always reminded me of an out of tune Briggs & Stratton...

Stick to the KLR, you can go anywhere anything else do and it is absolutely bullet proof (as you probably already know).

Just my opinion...personally just never liked the sound and feel of that motor.

GRUNT · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2010, 09:08:00 pm »

Keep the KLR!!!

Schloep · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2010, 09:20:21 pm »

Ja, man. Hou die Kawa. Image is nie alles nie.

voorvel · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2010, 09:28:58 pm »

It depends on what type of person you are really..

Do you spend Saturdays working in the garden and whistle Vivaldi's four seasons while walking the dogs? -Dakar
Do you spend Saturdays in some random bar, drinking beer and looking to score? -640
Do you find yourself pondering about climate change and the global economy in general?- Dakar

Back in 2002, I chose the Dakar over the 640 and 'till this day, I still regret doing it.

It turns out that I'm a 640 guy and this is how I saw it:

Dakar would chronically loose it's back light on dirt roads and end up with bent front rims.
I got so irritated by the fact that touratech is the only aftermarket company catering for the BMW specific parts
Did I mention the fact that the Dakar's forks are way underpowered for it's weight.. how did they even call it "Dakar" is beyond me.

Ter afsluiting : Dakar handle soos 'n vrag kak wat skeef gelaai is

There is nothing wrong with being a "dakar guy", don't get me wrong!

michnus · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2010, 09:43:11 pm »

what a bunch of horse manure.

I had both, a KLR and a Dakar and owned them at the same time, there's no comparison. The Dakar is a way better bike. Ye, get rid of the handlebars and add some other farkles and you're on.
The KLR is getting old, still a good honest bike for the money, but is not exciting. In the end if a bike doesn't do it for you any more get another bike.

The sound of the motor counts for zero, you don't buy a bike for what it sound.

Why do you think the 640 is the hardcore beer drinking oke's bike, where did you get that lekker idea? Geez mate Dakar owners can drink with the best of them.

Reliable and you want to compare a 640 to a Dakar, go read the Angola thread and see where a 640 decided to leave us?

Have you ever ride a 640 on a rocky road? You're bouncing on a pogo stick, the suspension is made for smaller enduro bikes.

Dakar is a dual purpose, not a enduro bike.

BTW where is your hardcore rr's where you take your 640 in places other bikes struggle?

nemodakar · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2010, 09:51:33 pm »

Just read the RR's, how many by 640's, how many by Dakar's, I rest my case.

I don't want to be a pretend Dakar rider, I would like to ride a Dakar.

Buy one, you know you want one.

RobC · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2010, 09:59:47 pm »

Quote from: Saddle Up on August 10, 2010, 08:37:10 pm

I have a super trusty 07 Klr in a great condition with all nuts and bolts in tact and no hassels at all. But for some reason the Dakar has always lured me. So much so, that I passed over a perfect KTM 640 recently. What say the Dogs. Should I let my Klr go for the Dakar?

When I started looking at bikes again I took a test ride on the CS650 belt drive model... sweet machine. So I started working out the budget but could not justify the money for a new bike and the second hand BMWś were too expensive for a decent one or too clapped for an affordable one.
Then the new look KLR appeared... at a price that suited me... after I did the suspension I will never trade it for a BMW. IMHO it performs better than the BMW now. I would keep the KLR.

JamesXRV · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:01:37 pm »

Quote from: michnus on August 10, 2010, 09:43:11 pm

what a bunch of horse manure.

The sound of the motor counts for zero, you don't buy a bike for what it sound.

Dakar is a dual purpose, not a enduro bike.

Dual purpose = lots of time spent on it = cares what it sound like...

Thought at one stage, a few years ago, I would maybe "upgrade" to a Dakar...then I rode one...

michnus · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:13:16 pm »

Quote from: JamesXRV on August 10, 2010, 10:01:37 pm

Quote from: michnus on August 10, 2010, 09:43:11 pm
what a bunch of horse manure.

The sound of the motor counts for zero, you don't buy a bike for what it sound.

Dakar is a dual purpose, not a enduro bike.

Dual purpose = lots of time spent on it = cares what it sound like...

Thought at one stage, a few years ago, I would maybe "upgrade" to a Dakar...then I rode one...

Cant compare the AT to a Dakar, AT is much heavier and use the same shitty suspension.

You havent heard a stock KLR, they do not call it tweety for nothing? Ye they all sound better with aftermarket exhaust.

GlenInk · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:19:26 pm »

Question : Have you ever ridden a Dakar ?

michnus · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:22:57 pm »

Quote from: RobC on August 10, 2010, 09:59:47 pm

Quote from: Saddle Up on August 10, 2010, 08:37:10 pm
I have a super trusty 07 Klr in a great condition with all nuts and bolts in tact and no hassels at all. But for some reason the Dakar has always lured me. So much so, that I passed over a perfect KTM 640 recently. What say the Dogs. Should I let my Klr go for the Dakar?
When I started looking at bikes again I took a test ride on the CS650 belt drive model... sweet machine. So I started working out the budget but could not justify the money for a new bike and the second hand BMWś were too expensive for a decent one or too clapped for an affordable one.
Then the new look KLR appeared... at a price that suited me... after I did the suspension I will never trade it for a BMW. IMHO it performs better than the BMW now. I would keep the KLR.

Sound like the youngsters with their sooped up CitiGolfs, stick in a turbo charger but forget the brakes are still non existent, but it does not matter, stopping are for whoosies.

Forget about wasting money on suspension on a KLR, you cant make it kick ass, as your starting point are crappy suspension. Rather upgrade your brakes, and get a bolt kit and fix the Doo, and fit a Corbin seat.

JamesXRV · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:27:42 pm »

Quote from: michnus on August 10, 2010, 10:13:16 pm

Quote from: JamesXRV on August 10, 2010, 10:01:37 pm
Quote from: michnus on August 10, 2010, 09:43:11 pm
what a bunch of horse manure.

The sound of the motor counts for zero, you don't buy a bike for what it sound.

Dakar is a dual purpose, not a enduro bike.

Dual purpose = lots of time spent on it = cares what it sound like...

Thought at one stage, a few years ago, I would maybe "upgrade" to a Dakar...then I rode one...

Cant compare the AT to a Dakar, AT is much heavier and use the same shitty suspension.

You havent heard a stock KLR, they do not call it tweety for nothing? Ye they all sound better with aftermarket exhaust.

Dakar: 49hp, 177kg
AT :60hp,205kg

Just about equal...except for one thing, one of them is Japanese and obviously far superior..and it sounds and looks better...and it's grandfather (NXR 750V) actually won the Dakar.

Anyway, I have a whiskey poured and a Bond movie on, gotta go...

DUSTRIDERS · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:31:12 pm »

James but Richard Saint also won the Dakar on a Dakar. Twice I think.
The Dakar has one or two shortcomings, but its a great bike.
If I ever go back to the 650 class the Dakar would be on the list.
BMW made a BIG mistake not making them anymore.

lpj · « **Reply #15 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:31:46 pm »

Quote from: michnus on August 10, 2010, 10:13:16 pm

Cant compare the AT to a Dakar...

or anything else, of course.

Kaptein Bos · « **Reply #16 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:32:05 pm »

Thid thread makes no sense at all...

michnus · « **Reply #17 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:34:22 pm »

Quote from: JamesXRV on August 10, 2010, 10:27:42 pm

Quote from: michnus on August 10, 2010, 10:13:16 pm
Quote from: JamesXRV on August 10, 2010, 10:01:37 pm
Quote from: michnus on August 10, 2010, 09:43:11 pm
what a bunch of horse manure.

The sound of the motor counts for zero, you don't buy a bike for what it sound.

Dakar is a dual purpose, not a enduro bike.

Dual purpose = lots of time spent on it = cares what it sound like...

Thought at one stage, a few years ago, I would maybe "upgrade" to a Dakar...then I rode one...

Cant compare the AT to a Dakar, AT is much heavier and use the same shitty suspension.

You havent heard a stock KLR, they do not call it tweety for nothing? Ye they all sound better with aftermarket exhaust.

Dakar: 49hp, 177kg
AT :60hp,205kg

Just about equal...except for one thing, one of them is Japanese and obviously far superior..and it sounds and looks better...and it's grandfather (NXR 750V) actually won the Dakar.

Anyway, I have a whiskey poured and a Bond movie on, gotta go...

hahaha ya all these previous old Yammie and Honda Dakar fame thrown around for good measure.

Let's leave your AT out of this, the man wanted a Dakar not a AT.

Yes I have seen AT's and KLR's playing

Ye drinking some Ardberg I got from good friends.

RobC · « **Reply #18 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:35:50 pm »

[quote author=michnus link=topic=54333.msg1092934#msg1092934
Forget about wasting money on suspension on a KLR, you cant make it kick ass, as your straring point is rubbish. Rather upgrade your brakes, and get a bolt kit and fix the Doo, and fit a Corbin seat.

[/quote]Corbins are for softties...

Kaptein Bos · « **Reply #19 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:37:51 pm »

Once you go Dak you never go Back...