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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2007, 01:03:36 pm »
I have Eagle Lever Doohickey replacements in stock and sell them as well as fit them. You should find out if your bike is still running on the original doohickey. After 40odd thousand km this might be a reason to worry.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2007, 04:21:58 pm »
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I have Eagle Lever Doohickey replacements in stock and sell them as well as fit them. You should find out if your bike is still running on the original doohickey. After 40odd thousand km this might be a reason to worry.


I'll look into it. Thanks for the warning.

Allthough i don't know what a doohickey is yet. The guys forwarded me the links i'll check it out later. How much is a doohickey and is it difficult to fit?
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2007, 02:30:12 pm »
Not sure yet but I think the whole job with parts will be around R 1000.

To DIY you need some special tools. Not so much special skills. A good hobby mechanic with a good quality tool kit can do it.
You need a flywheel holder and a flywheel puller to get the generator flywheel off and on.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2007, 09:20:17 pm »
Guys i picked up one more problem with the KLR. When i go through a really bumpy section of road the handle bars vibrate. Could this be worn steering bearings. Okay don't laugh i don't know what you call those bearings but i know they are used to make the bike turn smoothly.

Also i found the big nut underneath the handle bars in the middle is a bit loose i tightened it by hand. Could this nut cause the vibrations?

How tight should i make that nut?
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2007, 01:06:05 am »
oh yes, classic hassle.
Size 27 socket. maak vas.

Swap your bars for Pro Taper SE ATV Hi, work for me, KiLRoy, Wilhelm, D7 too I think.
 

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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2007, 07:58:11 am »
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oh yes, classic hassle.
Size 27 socket. maak vas.

Swap your bars for Pro Taper SE ATV Hi, work for me, KiLRoy, Wilhelm, D7 too I think.


If i tighten the nut will it stop the vibration? Hmm i guess i'll have to see.
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2007, 08:27:31 am »
Could somebody please explain to me what the function of the cable operated switch is thats connected to the kick stand.

The previous owner mumbled something about tampering with the switch.

Can i disable the switch? What would the effects be?

Yes i know i ask lotsa questions but i want to get the bike sorted before the end of March.

Thanks for the help so far.
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2007, 08:28:16 am »
I think shark_za refers to the big hex nut on top of the triple clamp. If it is loose you can just tighten it (assuming the triple clamp - bearing assembly was fitted and adjusted correctly)

If you tighten the round slotted nut beneath the triple clamp you will overtighten your steering head bearing and most probably see your arse trying to negotiate the next corner.
Setting a steering head is not a beginners game especially with the slightly tricky setup of the KLR's bearings & upper triple clamp. (Hail to the old Honda double slotted nut with locking washer system!)

Never ever trust "recipes" to set steering heads. It needs to be free of any play and it needs to be precisely that. Don't try to supplement torque wrenches and angles for feel and experience.

Get your steering head bearings checked. They are most probably stuffed up already.
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2007, 08:34:25 am »
Thanks Le Cap. I'll try to tighten the nut first and see the effects.
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2007, 08:39:35 am »
Do NOT disable the side stand switch.
It's an important safety feature preventing you to ride the bike with its side stand down.

The cable connecting the side stand to the switch easily lasts some 3 to four years and only costs a few Rand. Take it out once a year and flush it with Q20.
If the cable should seize in the sleeve while you are on tour you simply remove the black plastic cover that protects the switch and alternator wiring harness and pull the switch into the "side stand up" position by hand once the side stand is up. Do not disconnect the cable. You will kep the safety feature and get home without problems.
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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2007, 08:56:01 am »
Okay Le Cap i won't disable the switch, but there is something wrong with mine.

This morning the starter was dead. The stand was still down. So all i did was kick the stand up and the bike started. Then i let the stand down again to let the bike idle.

What i don't understand is sometimes the bike starts with the stand down and sometimes it won't and visa versa. I think the cable is could be stuck. What do you think?
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2007, 09:06:32 am »
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Okay Le Cap i won't disable the switch, but there is something wrong with mine.

This morning the starter was dead. The stand was still down. So all i did was kick the stand up and the bike started. Then i let the stand down again to let the bike idle.

What i don't understand is sometimes the bike starts with the stand down and sometimes it won't and visa versa. I think the cable is could be stuck. What do you think?


I have the same problem on my Z750  :?
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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2007, 09:11:28 am »
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Okay Le Cap i won't disable the switch, but there is something wrong with mine.

This morning the starter was dead. The stand was still down. So all i did was kick the stand up and the bike started. Then i let the stand down again to let the bike idle.

What i don't understand is sometimes the bike starts with the stand down and sometimes it won't and visa versa. I think the cable is could be stuck. What do you think?


I have the same problem on my Z750  :?


High probability that it is the cable. Most probably dirt causing the cable to mis-behave.

Happened on the DR with the KLR.
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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2007, 09:12:57 am »
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I have the same problem on my Z750  :?


Most probably dirt causing the cable to mis-behave.


Somehow I don't think dirt is causing the problem...Z750s aren't too happy off-road  :D
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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2007, 09:17:21 am »
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I have the same problem on my Z750  :?


Most probably dirt causing the cable to mis-behave.


Somehow I don't think dirt is causing the problem...Z750s aren't too happy off-road  :D


What's a Z750? hehe :oops:  :D

Was referring to the KLR. :wink:

Mis-quote. :oops:
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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2007, 09:35:51 am »
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What's a Z750? hehe :oops:  :D

A road bike:


Quote from: "JourneyMan"
Was referring to the KLR. :wink:


The KLE's side-stand thingy came off going up Sani - it's now happily cable-tied to the frame out of harm (and the side stand)'s way  :D
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2007, 09:41:41 am »
Are the KLR 650's handlebars rubber mounted?

They are on my Dominator and they vibrate noticibly quite a bit when riding over corrugagtions.

I took them off my old Domi and replaced with stainless washers, much better.

I find the handlebars on my mate's KLR 650 more comfortable than the ones on my new Domi...I would leave the original KLR bars on the bike myself. (Just my opinion.)

Side-stand cut out switch; they stop me starting some of my bikes when the stand is down, even if the bike is in neutral, so now I always disconnect them.
Pain in the arse I reckon.
Almost as good an idea as self-retracting side stands. :roll:
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2007, 09:44:20 am »
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Okay Le Cap i won't disable the switch, but there is something wrong with mine.

This morning the starter was dead. The stand was still down. So all i did was kick the stand up and the bike started. Then i let the stand down again to let the bike idle.

What i don't understand is sometimes the bike starts with the stand down and sometimes it won't and visa versa. I think the cable is could be stuck. What do you think?


Scuse my ignorance - I don't know a KLR from a bar of soap.

But what you describe sounds more like a clutch switch than a sidestand switch.
If the bike is in Neutral it shouldn't matter where the sidestand is surely? (Unless it's stuffed I suppose)
So what is your starting procedure?
Do you depress the clutch when starting? Or do you start from Neutral?
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2007, 09:49:25 am »
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Okay Le Cap i won't disable the switch, but there is something wrong with mine.

This morning the starter was dead. The stand was still down. So all i did was kick the stand up and the bike started. Then i let the stand down again to let the bike idle.

What i don't understand is sometimes the bike starts with the stand down and sometimes it won't and visa versa. I think the cable is could be stuck. What do you think?


Scuse my ignorance - I don't know a KLR from a bar of soap.

But what you describe sounds more like a clutch switch than a sidestand switch.
If the bike is in Neutral it shouldn't matter where the sidestand is surely? (Unless it's stuffed I suppose)
So what is your starting procedure?
Do you depress the clutch when starting? Or do you start from Neutral?


Always start in Neutral. Always depress the clutch.
Sometime stand is down. Sometimes stand is up.
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2007, 09:57:29 am »
Mr. Big. Clutch switch, what clutch switch? :shock:

Does a KLR have a clutch switch? If so what for? :D
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