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Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« on: September 23, 2010, 08:59:25 am »
I presently ride a HP2 as my DS of choice, have had GS's - 650, 1150, 1200ADV before this. Also had road bikes and raced some - also had a Yammie DT 400 back in the days when it was considered gnarly! The position I am now in is I want/need a 'plastic' to go ride with my 12 year old on his TTR and with mates on their plastics ... the HP2 obviously is not the toy/weapon of choice for some of these excursions. I do not want to break the bank and have the option of getting a '05 CRF 250R for a couple of 'Gorillas' under R20K. The bike is in awesome standard condition - barely raced and has basically sat for a couple of years. I have ridden it and laark it! My questions to those in the know about these bikes are:

1) I understand this is a MX bike and there was a X model that was more enduro orientated (slightly larger fuel tank, gearing slightly different, happy biutton:)  - not many other big differences that I know of?). Obviously the type of riding in the mountains and woods that I want to do is more enduro orientated but am thinking this bike will do the job admirably but need to ask - will this bike be suitable with the addition of barkbusters, better bashplate, maybe some slight bar risers as I am tall, maybe even long range tank? Any other suggestions?

2) I read on the web that there were issues with the soft valves? Seems that some have fitted SS as oposed to the titanium??? Comments please - do they just need regular shimming or are they a weak link?

3) I know that a 2010 model is quite different but costs R66K so a similar beast for under R20K seems like a bargain?

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 09:09:30 am »
The R has hotter cams too. It likes the revs, so not that lekker for slow technical riding... Tendency to stall... I suppose with lower gearing you should be able to get around the problem...

I rode the X in the Ceres mountains and that was OK to me, but even that bike revs like a nutter... But the biggest plus is the light weight.

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 09:29:16 am »
The R has hotter cams too. It likes the revs, so not that lekker for slow technical riding... Tendency to stall... I suppose with lower gearing you should be able to get around the problem...

I rode the X in the Ceres mountains and that was OK to me, but even that bike revs like a nutter... But the biggest plus is the light weight.

Why not get a 2-stroke?
 

Yes I did not mention the cams - ceratinly revs up lekker. I believe the flywheel can also be weighted if necessary and this will reduce srtalling. I like 4 strokes and am used to their power delivery. Rode Edgy's KDX at a recent social enduro and found the transition difficult (despite having raced small 2-stroke road bikes) - just seemed like alot of hard work keeping the thing in the powerband etc.
Maybe I am just too much ofd an old toppie now!?
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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 09:43:47 am »
I know what you're saying... I also prefer the engine braking on the 4strokes...

The only other issue is possibly engine problems... Not wanting to be the prophet of doom, but... Rebuilding that motor could end up costing you more than the purchase price...?  :-\
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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 09:44:22 am »
BD rather go for the CRF 250 X model than the R . The R is like you said a motocross bike , short gearing and stiff suspension . Not a very nice "playbike " , especially  if youre already on the wrong side of 40 .  ;D
 

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 10:12:50 am »
For the price offered its worth looking at. Yes, indeed they have some valve issues, I also know of crank issue (mate of mine who is SUPER anal about maintenance etc siezed his crank). Its a race bike and it does cost big bucks to repair, but so 17-18K its not bad. Yes, there are better bikes for what you wish to do but this is whats before you and thus the question, right?
If its start well hot or cold, has little crank case blow by and no mech noises, I would take it.

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 10:37:00 am »
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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 11:08:23 am »
KDX 200

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 11:22:22 am »
I cannot tell you too much about the R, except that for sub 20k you get a lot of bike for very little money. A good quality X will be R30k or more. If you want a bad quality X, I have one for 20K.

I have ridden the CRF250X since 2006 and have just now replaced it with another one because it is just such a perfect bike - with weight, power and suspension balanced in as complete a package as you are going to get.

The titanium valves valves are a weak spot. On my '04 I replaced them with stainless steel. If I recall correctly it cost me about R4k to replave all valves, piston and rings. That's pretty cheap considering.  I just did the piston and rings since I was in there already. If the bike still starts easily then you do not need to change the valves just yet.

If that one still starts easily then you may not need to change the valves just yet.

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 11:58:09 am »
my advice would be, if your not planning on racing in the 200 class, then rather get a 450 the 250's are down on power, especially when your just looking for a fun play bike, plus they eat motors they rev like hell, expect to do a piston ring combo every 100ish hours, and when something goes wrong a complete motor rebuild can set you back from 20k upwards..not trying to scare you, but those are just the facts :)
 

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2010, 12:26:38 pm »
This is mine, we finished it today.
There is a very long list:

Donor bike was a 2006 CRF 250R:

With:

Stroker Crank
Big Bore kit
Bigger SS valves
Flowed head
Torque cam
X flywheel
08 ignition
CRF X gearbox
Bigger carb
Sidestand

And a fuckload of once off special shit, not to mention the bling.
So it is a R with X box.
Logged 34 hours on the suspension alone and spend about R40 -50K on the motor.
Now to get it run in..........................
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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 12:30:22 pm »
Fook that looks good Runner :drif:
 

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 12:31:34 pm »
I bought a KX250F new in 2006, it's the Kawasaki version of the CRF 250R. I do not ride MX, only enduro type stuff, mostly in Atlantis or Parklands.  Apart from softer fork springs and a fork revalve, done by MP, the bike is stock standard.

Anybody who tells you a 250F is down on power does not know what he is talking about and are welcome to come and ride with me and see if they can keep up.

I replace the piston every 50 hrs as a precautionalry measure, last time cost me R1500. I change the oil and filter every 5 hours, and clean the air filter after every ride.

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2010, 12:35:51 pm »
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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2010, 01:13:43 pm »
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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2010, 02:35:33 pm »
Fok Runner!!!

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Re: Honda CRF 250R - '05 Input please?
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2010, 08:32:09 am »
It sounds like that KDX had a rev pipe.. makes a huge difference on them.

If money is no issue, get the CRF250X or WR250F.

Otherwise, 2T all the way matey! You can accomplish lots with torque header pipes and sprockets on 2T's.
Erzberg is still dominated by 2T.

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