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800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« on: December 22, 2010, 10:24:38 am »
 :peepwall: After reading Sir Allan Cathcart's test in the new Bike / Offroad Adventure SA, I actually feel sorry for 800GS owners. The 800GS may become a bargain buy like the XChal/XCountry. Alternatively BMW may extend the 'On Call Service' to 10yrs on the 800's!
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 10:28:48 am »
Dont do this to me , I do not have the new copy yet...WHAT WAS SAID ????????
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 10:39:48 am »
Yep - just like the S10 was going to kill the maket for the 1200GS. There is still a lot of water that will need to go under the bridge before Triumph in SA will be able to state that they have both the bike and the aftermarket service to have a serious impact on the 800GS sales and 2nd hand value.

That being said, I am very excited about the new Tiger - it is the 1st bike since the 800GS that has made me think about which bike will be next in my garage.
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 10:57:30 am »
Dont do this to me , I do not have the new copy yet...WHAT WAS SAID ????????
Nope, sorry, I'm not going to spoil your reading enjoyment! All I will say is that it's basically better everywhere, except maybe brakes, PLUS it has
CHARACTHER in HEaPS !!!
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 11:09:05 am »
I think its going to be a great bike. But lets wait and see. I would have seriously considered buying one of the Tigers but I prefer to buy the 2nd generation models that have ironed out any niggles that may develop. Also In Durbs only 1 dealer and its far from where I live. Hopefully Triumph will position themselves as a true "premium brand" with this model. Although they have the machine (on paper that is) that can compete strongly against the 800GS they are going to have to work really hard to get there dealer service levels to that of of BMW
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 11:11:19 am »
Ok , you have now forced me to abandon the office and go get a copy......sheet , and I was working so hard :mwink:
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 11:26:32 am »
Dont do this to me , I do not have the new copy yet...WHAT WAS SAID ????????
Nope, sorry, I'm not going to spoil your reading enjoyment! All I will say is that it's basically better everywhere, except maybe brakes, PLUS it has
CHARACTHER in HEaPS !!!
in the end its all about the rider not the bike, most of the people on this forum is not experienced enough to take the GS or to be Tiger to its maximum capabilities, so it does not matter which is best but how you are able to ride the bike :)
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 11:30:26 am »
Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possible come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 11:35:36 am »
Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possible come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 11:46:11 am »
Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possibly come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.

Ofcourse he'll support the Truimph , just like Top Gear guys (My favourite car show) support Jaguar , Mondeo and Austin Martin. Nothing can beat Brithish tech , not even the Nazi Germans with their stupid Merc's , Bmw's , Porche's or BMW BIKES !! They will go to extreme measures to prove that British are still the best and most clever country ................................ in the world !!!  :thumleft:
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 11:52:44 am »
Yep - just like the S10 was going to kill the maket for the 1200GS.

Ek wil nou nie snaaks wees nie Bollie, maar.....

Fact: Even BMW in its management forums have noted the arrival of the Super Tenere. Sales of the GS has fallen 50% vs budget and trends, yes half, since the introduction of the ST. Incidently, this 50% fall equates roughly to the number of ST's sold in SA.

My source is confidential, pm me if you want to discuss, I am not naming names in a public forum to boost my credibality.

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The Triumph is in the same market segment as the 800GS, but no, it will never have the same impact on the 800 as the ST had on the 1200GS, Triumph footprint is too small.

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 11:56:55 am »
Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possibly come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.

Ofcourse he'll support the Truimph , just like Top Gear guys (My favourite car show) support Jaguar , Mondeo and Austin Martin. Nothing can beat Brithish tech , not even the Nazi Germans with their stupid Merc's , Bmw's , Porche's or BMW BIKES !! They will go to extreme measures to prove that British are still the best and most clever country ................................ in the world !!!  :thumleft:
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 11:58:20 am »
Mmmmmm..... think I need to go for something smaller next year....  :peepwall:

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2010, 12:02:20 pm »
This is an ol one Triumph vs BMW. ;D
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 12:10:10 pm »
Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possibly come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.
Common you Beemer guys, don't blame the Brits for everything that's wrong in the world -/that's a sheet excuse! This old Brit gives a hellavu lot of recognition to the 1200GS in the very same article........on which I personally differ, but I'm sure he knows more about bikes than all of us combined!
 

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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 12:15:11 pm »
Ok , you have now forced me to abandon the office and go get a copy......sheet , and I was working so hard :mwink:
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 12:16:14 pm »
Yep - just like the S10 was going to kill the maket for the 1200GS.

Ek wil nou nie snaaks wees nie Bollie, maar.....

Fact: Even BMW in its management forums have noted the arrival of the Super Tenere. Sales of the GS has fallen 50% vs budget and trends, yes half, since the introduction of the ST. Incidently, this 50% fall equates roughly to the number of ST's sold in SA.


Interesting, so the Super Ten took 50% of the market?
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 12:19:02 pm »
Yep - just like the S10 was going to kill the maket for the 1200GS.

Ek wil nou nie snaaks wees nie Bollie, maar.....

Fact: Even BMW in its management forums have noted the arrival of the Super Tenere. Sales of the GS has fallen 50% vs budget and trends, yes half, since the introduction of the ST. Incidently, this 50% fall equates roughly to the number of ST's sold in SA.


Interesting, so the Super Ten took 50% of the market?

If so then they are all safely tucked away in garages. I have seen two on the road.....

Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possibly come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.
Common you Beemer guys, don't blame the Brits for everything that's wrong in the world -/that's a sheet excuse! This old Brit gives a hellavu lot of recognition to the 1200GS in the very same article........on which I personally differ, but I'm sure he knows more about bikes than all of us combined!

Nice dig there. Can I give you a Christmas present?

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 12:20:56 pm »
SNAFU ek kan nie so mooi somme doen nie, Maar ek sien nie daai 50% op die paaie nie  >:D

Ek laaik die S10 vreeslik baie en die Triomf is ook nie lelik nie, maar moet nou nie die verlies aan verkope op die S10 se verkope afsmeer nie dit is net belaglik.
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2010, 12:22:01 pm »
Fact: Even BMW in its management forums have noted the arrival of the Super Tenere. Sales of the GS has fallen 50% vs budget and trends, yes half, since the introduction of the ST. Incidently, this 50% fall equates roughly to the number of ST's sold in SA.

I find this very hard to believe ...   :o

According to Donford in Stellenbosch, BMW sold about 400 new bikes in the Western Cape alone this year. Donford account for 200 of those. GS's make up about 60% of this.

Are there 200+ STen's hiding around the Cape? Or even the country? I think GS's sell less because fewer people are spending R180k on bikes.

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