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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #100 on: December 30, 2010, 09:11:05 pm »
FYI

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=15759

sorry, can't see it without logging in... give us the short version  :deal:
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #101 on: December 30, 2010, 09:14:00 pm »
Not much, just one rider's first impressions of the road going version...

Had a chance today to take the new Tiger 800 for a two up test ride. Conditions were pretty poor and the bike was still in the running in period so I was gentle with it.

First impressions then; very low and compact for the genre. A bit too small for me to be honest. The pillion seat was described by my co-pilot as the worst she'd tried. The rider's seat was ok for the hour or so I had the bike. The engine feels light and fresh, happy to rev and not buzzy. It's a good thing it is happy to rev, as you need to keep the revs up in the mid range in order to make progress.

The bike feels long and no doubt the addition of a pillion added to this. Adjustment on the shock is preload only (that I could see) and I wound it in 2/3rd of the way to account for the pillion. The test bike had the Arrow silencer and alloy sump guard fitted from the accessory catalogue; the silencer gave a little rasp to the exhaust note, though most on board sound came from the airbox. The sump guard appeared a little extraneous and was really there it seemed in order to take your eye away from the under-sump catalytic convertor.
There's no getting away from certain design elements which have you believing it has been designed for the road only. The front subframe is welded to the headstock, so an unlucky drop is going to see the frame potenially written off. The same can be said of the pillion pegs. Ok so this was the road going model with cast wheels, but the off-road biased XC version is the same.

I was a bit disappointed in the bike to be honest. I had hoped for something with a bit more grunt to it. There was no denying the bike was smooth to pull from low revs even in a high gear, but it really needed revving to get the most from it. Rumour has it a 1200cc version will be with us mid next year. I will hold on until then.
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #102 on: December 30, 2010, 09:24:05 pm »
Goodness!  Whoever wrote that obviously isn't a Brit.    ::)

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #103 on: December 31, 2010, 01:21:06 pm »
Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possibly come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.

Ofcourse he'll support the Truimph , just like Top Gear guys (My favourite car show) support Jaguar , Mondeo and Austin Martin. Nothing can beat Brithish tech , not even the Nazi Germans with their stupid Merc's , Bmw's , Porche's or BMW BIKES !! They will go to extreme measures to prove that British are still the best and most clever country ................................ in the world !!!  :thumleft:

Er. Gotta disagree there about Top Gear. They certainly don't support the British car maker at all and in fact (quoted in court) contributed to the demise of Rover cars. J.Clarkson drives a Merc, Hammond a Porsche and Captain Slow a Ferrari. I'm British and I know that we can be a bit arsey at times but as a nation we are pretty cynical and that goes for our own industry. We went from having the biggest bike manufacturing base in the world in the 60's to nothing bu mid 70's - we just didn't buy the bikes. Top selling bike in the UK is the BMW - in fact I think that in various guises BMW have four of the top selling bikes in the UK. With regard to the new Triumphs - well they get good write ups because.....they really are good. My wife has a GS650 and I have a Trumpet and I knwo which one has been more reliable and it's not the German one.
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #104 on: December 31, 2010, 01:51:04 pm »
The engine feels light and fresh, happy to rev and not buzzy. It's a good thing it is happy to rev, as you need to keep the revs up in the mid range in order to make progress.

It is a triple, aint it? This should probably be a consideration when deciding to get a Triumph or not. On the face of it these look like wonderful bikes and I really like the fact that there is another player in the market - but should a triple be the basis of a true ds bike? Three cylinders is perhaps a good compromise between the low(er)-down torque of a twin and the smoothness of a 4 on a road bike but will it work as well when the going gets slow? The beauty of the midrange thumpers is that one can have useable power from as low as 1800 rpm with no chain snatch or other hiccups. You can open it up from there or it will be happy to potter around at 2000 rpm without clutching, should you find yourself on a single track that demands it. Having said that, the KTM's and the 800 GS all seem to be happier when cleaning their throats in the upper part of the rev range.  Is the Triumph any worse/better or is it simply a non-issue?
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #105 on: December 31, 2010, 02:44:00 pm »
PLEASE no more of this "800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC" crap until next year :peepwall:

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #106 on: December 31, 2010, 05:27:57 pm »
Thought I'll share this, but most people interested in the Tiger 800 probably have seen it on the Tiger 800 forum.

A 1200GS Rider's short view

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #107 on: December 31, 2010, 09:15:19 pm »
Let me guess, Sir Allan Cathcart isn't British by any chance is he? I mean, I say old chap! As a jolly spiffing Brit, how could he possibly come to any other conclusion. How could he possibly vote in favour of that nasty Jerry contraption? Good heavens man; you really ought to read with more circumspection, I say what, what.

Ofcourse he'll support the Truimph , just like Top Gear guys (My favourite car show) support Jaguar , Mondeo and Austin Martin. Nothing can beat Brithish tech , not even the Nazi Germans with their stupid Merc's , Bmw's , Porche's or BMW BIKES !! They will go to extreme measures to prove that British are still the best and most clever country ................................ in the world !!!  :thumleft:

Er. Gotta disagree there about Top Gear. They certainly don't support the British car maker at all and in fact (quoted in court) contributed to the demise of Rover cars. J.Clarkson drives a Merc, Hammond a Porsche and Captain Slow a Ferrari. I'm British and I know that we can be a bit arsey at times but as a nation we are pretty cynical and that goes for our own industry. We went from having the biggest bike manufacturing base in the world in the 60's to nothing bu mid 70's - we just didn't buy the bikes. Top selling bike in the UK is the BMW - in fact I think that in various guises BMW have four of the top selling bikes in the UK. With regard to the new Triumphs - well they get good write ups because.....they really are good. My wife has a GS650 and I have a Trumpet and I knwo which one has been more reliable and it's not the German one.
Thanks, it's refreshing to read an objective view
for a change! You are obviously not brain washed by BMW!
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #108 on: January 23, 2011, 09:10:08 am »
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #109 on: January 24, 2011, 07:57:21 am »
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #110 on: January 24, 2011, 08:10:26 am »
Never ridden a truimph before but this new one has a place in my garage. ;D :biggrin:
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #111 on: January 24, 2011, 02:45:35 pm »
What Mzee now you trading the Big Ten superliner for a lightweight :ricky:
 

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #112 on: January 24, 2011, 04:03:57 pm »
The first batch of Tiger 800's arrived in PE last week....

They are supposed to be in JHB today, and going to their lucky new owners over the next week !!!

Rumour has it that the entire first batch is sold !!!
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #113 on: January 24, 2011, 04:25:48 pm »
What Mzee now you trading the Big Ten superliner for a lightweight :ricky:

Plonker slow down  :imaposer:  :imaposer:.  Once a biker always a biker: The range should run this way:  the heavy weight to the feather weight.  Heavy for long distance and light for here and about. What say you?
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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #114 on: January 24, 2011, 08:04:09 pm »
Oh dear, the Trumpet looks like a BMW, shame and an R1 looks nothing like a GSXR or Blade? Established good layout, just a compliment 8)

Holy crap!
I had to look twice. That looks exactly like my 800!! the Zorts is just on the wrong side  :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

If you gonna rip off another design at least change the color.

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #115 on: January 25, 2011, 12:19:32 pm »

First head to head from MCN to be completed next week. Here is the link  :thumleft:


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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #116 on: January 25, 2011, 12:38:28 pm »

and don't tell Trailrider about this video  :mwink:


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« Reply #117 on: January 25, 2011, 12:54:57 pm »
Who? I don't own a BMW ::)

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Re: 800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC
« Reply #118 on: January 25, 2011, 01:19:47 pm »
Who? I don't own a BMW ::)

I want a Harley.

Which one? Why aren't you in Oudtshoorn for the Route 62 Rally?
 

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« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2011, 06:06:50 pm »
Who? I don't own a BMW ::)

I want a Harley.

Which one? Why aren't you in Oudtshoorn for the Route 62 Rally?

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