800 GS's worst nightmare - Tiger 800XC

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Well, if old Allan Cathcart is right in his assessment of the Triumph, it is probably worth 10-15 K more than the GS. I guess only time will tell that. My only personal experience with BMW service was with my late XChallenge over a period of a year at two different Dealers, and honestly, that wasn't very good. Amongst other things, they had to replace the exhaust (silencer). Then in less than a 1000K's after that the gasket between the front and rear part started leaking. They told me not to ride the bike like that, and "ordered" a new gasket - which never arrived. After a month, I bought some "Gun Gum" and sealed it myself. In the end I sold it like that. This on a supposedly premium brand bike which I bought new from an official dealer and kept standard !  

was dit by een van die dealers in die Wes Kaap?

[Snafu]

Buks, Looks  like you only have shit with your bikes. My sons XR125 is coming in January, dont jynx it

[2StrokeDan]

The Truimph is at least a Triumph, not a engine, frame, plastics, wheels, electrics, all from different sources, thrown together by the Chinese and left to the buyer to sort. Small wonder it earned itself the nickname of lewensgevaarlik.

[Snafu]

The XC sounds nice and the price is very keen.
Will have to go look at one.......... but that 800 GS is also lekker......

As with all BMW's, they are over priced and are ripping the consumers dicks through their ass's. The mini Tiger is gonna be a good bike to take on the GS 800.

Cocky, your alias is appropriate.

Now, tell us; if the 800GS is horribly over-priced (and I don't disagree - all bikes are overpriced, except for the Chink ones), and the 800XC is essentially identical, but with a different badge on it, then why is it not also overpriced? It is exactly the same price as the 800GS.

The front end on the GS in non adjustable, buy it and take it MP to have the front end re-worked. Ask for discount and a swift F U will follow. Buy any BMW original kit and the same applies in terms of discount. Buy a after-market exhaust and it does not come from BMW and there goes your warranty.

Why do you need do adjust the 800's front suspension? You want to do enduro's?

The rest of your statements..mm, exactly the same with KTM? but we are compairing the 800 GS to the Triumph, right?

[KobusL]

Well, if old Allan Cathcart is right in his assessment of the Triumph, it is probably worth 10-15 K more than the GS. I guess only time will tell that. My only personal experience with BMW service was with my late XChallenge over a period of a year at two different Dealers, and honestly, that wasn't very good. Amongst other things, they had to replace the exhaust (silencer). Then in less than a 1000K's after that the gasket between the front and rear part started leaking. They told me not to ride the bike like that, and "ordered" a new gasket - which never arrived. After a month, I bought some "Gun Gum" and sealed it myself. In the end I sold it like that. This on a supposedly premium brand bike which I bought new from an official dealer and kept standard !  

So can we then assume the Tigers will be faultless?

Be fair, all the "premium" makes have their issues.

I bought the 660 Tenere, Yamaha is known for quality and reliability, but read the forums and see how many issues have raised their heads on these...
      

[Buks]

Well, if old Allan Cathcart is right in his assessment of the Triumph, it is probably worth 10-15 K more than the GS. I guess only time will tell that. My only personal experience with BMW service was with my late XChallenge over a period of a year at two different Dealers, and honestly, that wasn't very good. Amongst other things, they had to replace the exhaust (silencer). Then in less than a 1000K's after that the gasket between the front and rear part started leaking. They told me not to ride the bike like that, and "ordered" a new gasket - which never arrived. After a month, I bought some "Gun Gum" and sealed it myself. In the end I sold it like that. This on a supposedly premium brand bike which I bought new from an official dealer and kept standard !  

was dit by een van die dealers in die Wes Kaap?

Een in die Kaap en een in die Tuinroete.

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Don't get me wrong. I would very much like to see Triumph give BMW a wakeup call. I don't think it is likely, but it would be nice if it happened. The fact that the two bikes are priced identically is just further proof that bike (or car) pricing has very little to do with production costs, and everything to do with market positioning. The more competition there is, the better for us, and I sincerely hope that the triumph is a far superior machine to the BMW, even if only to nudge BMW towards bringing out something better. Competition is good!

what he said but then again these bikes are desinged for the EU market mostly and most of these bikes are used for touring and not for adventure riding

[Manna69247]

I think this looks 

[gser]

 Ek verwelkom enige nuwe DS fiets. Dit gee ons WDers meer keuses.
 Dit bring ook meer DSouens op ons grond paaie, ens.


 Welkom !

[the_wes]

you guys realise there's a 20-plus page thread somewhere where most of these opinions have already been hashed out 

[Ronsard]

heerlikheid maar die amnne raak moeilik...jojojojojo en nog so voor kersfees  nee man...anyway this is what i found/think i like the truimph looks very cool and will probalby be a very very nice bike....check these spec out the tiger whips almost all BMW's on horsepower, but you have to crank the engine up do be there....but the f800 has more torque plus it is at lower revs that the truimph...so my opinion(welcome to differ or assist ) i think the truimph will do lekker on the open road...and nice gravel roads but might struggle a bit on technical stuff

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/triumph_tiger_800xc_2011.php

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_f_800_gs_2011.php

[the_wes]

stirrer 

[Pote]

ek sal eerder vir hierdie gaan voordat ek 'n Triumph koop...

Aprilia Tuareg
750 cc V-Twin engine
21″ and 18″ wheels

[the_wes]

ek sal eerder vir hierdie gaan voordat ek 'n Triumph koop...

Aprilia Tuareg
750 cc V-Twin engine
21″ and 18″ wheels

Or Husqvarna's rumoured 800 

[Pote]

ek sal eerder vir hierdie gaan voordat ek 'n Triumph koop...

Aprilia Tuareg
750 cc V-Twin engine
21″ and 18″ wheels

Or Husqvarna's rumoured 800 

weet nie van daai 1 af nie, gooi so pic van die bike asb!!

[the_wes]

ek sal eerder vir hierdie gaan voordat ek 'n Triumph koop...

Aprilia Tuareg
750 cc V-Twin engine
21″ and 18″ wheels

Or Husqvarna's rumoured 800 

weet nie van daai 1 af nie, gooi so pic van die bike asb!!

rumoured! there's no pics... there's not even any info - there's just a rumour circulating that BMW gave husky the engine from the F 800 GS and said "here, do something with this"
 

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so I might be riding a husky in the future I do believe they will put a better suspension in the bike

[the_wes]

so I might be riding a husky in the future I do believe they will put a better suspension in the bike

i have 4 wishes:
1. it's more than a vicious rumour and they actually go ahead and do it
2. they continue their tradition of putting great components on their bikes - i.e. excel rims, good suspension, etc, etc
3. it turns out to be a husky 800cc HP2 type bike
4. I can afford one
 

[Battlestar]

I think next year is going to a cracker for new models. I look forward to it 

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so I might be riding a husky in the future I do believe they will put a better suspension in the bike

i have 4 wishes:
1. it's more than a vicious rumour and they actually go ahead and do it
2. they continue their tradition of putting great components on their bikes - i.e. excel rims, good suspension, etc, etc
3. it turns out to be a husky 800cc HP2 type bike
4. I can afford one
 

who stocks excel rims around here