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Where is ATGATT more needed...
« on: January 11, 2011, 11:47:35 am »
....on the tar or off-road?
Almost all the the road bike riders I see between George and Knysna don't wear ATGATT - sometimes a leather jacket, but that's about it. And in the summer months, you'll see a lot of riders - particularly the scooter brigade in shorts and T-shirts.
Regarding riders riding DS bikes, yes, quite a few I see are wearing jackets at least.
Now logic says (for me anyway) that you are far more likely to have an accident on the tar, because that's where almost all the car drivers are. Off-road, I very seldom encounter many cars at all.
So think about it - is all the ATGATT we wear to protect us in a fall off-road -normally our own "fault" -  ie. no car involvement - or is it for when we have to ride the inevitable stretch of tar?
I guess what I'm saying is how come so few road bike riders don't wear full ATGATT when they are the ones likely to need it most?
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 11:49:53 am »
I guess what I'm saying is how come so few road bike riders don't wear full ATGATT when they are the ones likely to need it most?
They have not fallen hard enough or often enough... yet... >:D
Pure luck imho.
I wear all my gear just to go buy milk. :deal:
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 11:52:55 am »
I guess what I'm saying is how come so few road bike riders don't wear full ATGATT when they are the ones likely to need it most?
They have not fallen hard enough or often enough... yet... >:D
Pure luck imho.
I wear all my gear just to go buy milk. :deal:

Are you serious Rob? - the shop's 1km from where I live - there's no way I'm putting on jacket, trousers and boots for that!
Then again, I live in Sedgefiled where traffic isn't much of a problem  :D
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 11:54:14 am »
ATGATT - All the gear ALL THE TIME
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 11:58:43 am »

Are you serious Rob? - the shop's 1km from where I live - there's no way I'm putting on jacket, trousers and boots for that!
Then again, I live in Sedgefiled where traffic isn't much of a problem  :D
Yes... :mwink: My closest shop is 780m! I go ATGATT or walk... :deal:
But then I have been around the sun a few times more than a lot of the young crotch rocket squad...
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 12:00:00 pm »
I think I  must be one of the bad ones then , milk run - video run -jeans , boots , t shirt and gloves - mission into town - i reluctantly put a jacket on , any further afield jacket , jeans , boots and gloves . There is a part of me that can get away with wearing my jacket sometimes but never my gloves , jeans and boots - of course helmet all the time , happy new year to you

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 12:12:10 pm »
I'm gear verskrik.
Haven't been riding long but have come off on black top twice and dirt twice.

Helmet Leatt brace jacket gloves knee guards and touring boots - Tar
Helmet Leatt brace jacket gloves knee guards and mx boots and enduro pants - Dirt

At our old place we had a quiet block and I would nip round the block in shorts to dry the chain and man i felt exposed.
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 12:12:29 pm »
 happy new year to you
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 01:26:23 pm »

Are you serious Rob? - the shop's 1km from where I live - there's no way I'm putting on jacket, trousers and boots for that!
Then again, I live in Sedgefiled where traffic isn't much of a problem  :D

it only takes 30 to 40 meters, never mind 1 Km... You're doing 30 to 40 km's per hour, and a dog runs in front of you in quiet little Sedgefield. 40 km's per hour onto tar = 3rd degree burns bud... That's scarring for life, and a VERY painful healing period.

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 02:55:23 pm »
I'm totally aware of the risk I'm taking and so be it.

The point I was really trying to get across, is how come so few road bikers wear ATTGAT - does it not fit with their "image", do they just think "it won't happen to me", or what?
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 03:36:18 pm »
To a certain extent I would say it is the "gaaniemetmygebeurni" attitude.
The road bikers I know are usually pretty ATGATT compliant... but then they are Old Bikers...  :mwink:
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 03:41:53 pm »
I have noticed and this is purely anecdotal, that in Gauteng, I see a lot more ATGATT. When traveling to the coast I hardly ever see anyone with ATGATT on. I am not sure why that is. Being a biker I look at every bike I see and take note of what the rider is wearing.

Personally I will only climb on a bike with ATGATT on, been round the block once to often and seen some horrible stuff. I get funny looks walking into work with all my gear and then having to change in a bathroom but hey, it keeps me safe.

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 03:46:36 pm »
I have noticed and this is purely anecdotal, that in Gauteng, I see a lot more ATGATT. When traveling to the coast I hardly ever see anyone with ATGATT on. I am not sure why that is. Being a biker I look at every bike I see and take note of what the rider is wearing.

Personally I will only climb on a bike with ATGATT on, been round the block once to often and seen some horrible stuff. I get funny looks walking into work with all my gear and then having to change in a bathroom but hey, it keeps me safe.

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 03:49:29 pm »

ATGATT IN GAUTENG COMES WITH BUILT IN BULLET PROOF VESTS :biggrin: :imaposer:
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 03:50:16 pm »
I hear what you say Big Al
But at 30 to 40 kph on tar you are going to be just as sore as if you fell off your mountain bike.
Try doing that with all the gear
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 04:04:47 pm »
I go to gym most mornings, and although there are occasionallly other bikes there, I am the only one I have seen clumping in with all my kit - boots, easy overs, jacket, gloves, helmet. I have noticed a couple of armoured skin types riding off with gym kit and helmet only....
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 04:06:55 pm »
Most accidents happen within 5 km's of home...

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2011, 04:09:03 pm »
Most accidents happen within 5 km's of home...

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2011, 04:26:28 pm »
When I was 17 I came off on tar in Hermanus on the way home from rugby practice on my trusty MTX50. I was wearing PT shorts and doing no more than 50km/h when a dog ran in front of me. I went over the h/bars and landed knees-first on the tar. I tried to stand up immediately and went into a cartwheel since I was still skidding down the road at about 20km/h - that's how I hurt my wrist as well.

It took a long time to heal, and I could not bend my knees at all during the recovery period. You try putting your underpants on without bending your knees!

As an aside... when my mom stormed into the hospital reception after receiving the phone call, the owner of the dog was standing there (small town). The ensuing conversation went something like this:

"Hi, are you the owner of the dog that my son rode over?"
"Yes"
"Oh, how is he?"
"No, we don't think he's going to make it"  :eek7:

I couldn't understand why my mom was in histerics when she came running into the surgery!

PS. the fkn dog did make it in the end.
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 04:32:14 pm »
I ride with full ATGATT. If I dont feel like dressing up, I dont ride! ;D
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