BMW design flaw

[Vaalseun]

This past weekend I rode the Canal route with buddy Izak when the black turf clay packed so tightly between the front wheel and the mudguard of my GSA that the wheel would'nt turn at all. I almost ploughed a new canal. The only solution was to remove the clay with a stick (after every fall) but this was only good for a few metres before it packed up again.

Upon closer inspection, we found there was a ridge under the mud-guard where it connects to the fork-assembly. This acted as a very effective clay-collecter. Izak's F800GS did not pack up once, although his mud-guard has only a fraction more space between the plastic and the wheel.

I say this is a major design flaw from BMW.

[Grrrr....]

Ja, BMW's are k@k!

[Dewie]

Waar moes hulle die ding gesit het 

Met die suspensie voor soos dit is, hoe wil jy die mudguard gemount hê, en hoeveel modder doen jy deur die jaar.

En ek is seker alle low front fenders sal so maak

[Grrrr....]

Maybe I should ad something a bit more constructive.

Yes, excessive mud will clog up the front but I have it on good authority that it has happened to the mighty KTM's too on occasion.

So design flaw maybe but not just with BMW's.

[oo7]

Ja, BMW's are k@k!

Absolutely.  Worst bike ever build, especially the 1200 GS Adventure.

Can't fathom anyone actually wanting to ride one. 

[Walkaway]

Hier kom n ding .......

[alanB]

Why they put those low front mud guards on an "adventure" bike, I have no idea.

I would say something that makes the bike un-rideable in terrain that the machine was "meant" for is a pretty stupid idea - wouldn't you?  After all an "adventure" bike shouldn't seize up solid in mud should it?

KTM's also have them with the same results.  

Surely somebody at the various OEM's should wake up and stop including them in the design?

Or this another one of the "fashion" things were a disfunctional design persists because somebody thinks it looks nice?

[LuckyStriker]

I say this is a major design flaw from BMW.

Absolutely!

I recommend you take all the mud you collected under the front mudguard and drop it off at the dealership who sold you your bike. Demand they recall all 1200GSs and fit redesigned mudguards. If that doesn't work I suggest you demand a full refund and buy a bike that won't clog up.

Don't tolerate BMW's wilful attempt to kill you. Those bastards must pay!

[cloudgazer]

Ja, BMW's are k@k!

Absolutely.  Worst bike ever build, especially the 1200 GS Adventure.

Can't fathom anyone actually wanting to ride one. 

Absolutely.

They are complete kak, horrible to ride and own.

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but at least they're better than KTMs.
 

[Grootseun]

no no you have it wrong....there was actually a recall on the canal mud - it's completely the wrong composition.
i heard they contracted GSA riders to collect all the faulty mud....

that's what the thingy above the front wheel is for


 

[Fiellie]

 

[KobusL]

This thread has nothing to do with BMW design IMHO, it is in reality a very clever brag about mud riding ability...

 

[Mzee]

I say this is a major design flaw from BMW.

Absolutely!

I recommend you take all the mud you collected under the front mudguard and drop it off at the dealership who sold you your bike. Demand they recall all 1200GSs and fit redesigned mudguards. If that doesn't work I suggest you demand a full refund and buy a bike that won't clog up.

Don't tolerate BMW's wilful attempt to kill you. Those bastards must pay!

+1

[Rooies]

Same thing happened to my TA700. But we all know that bike with the 19' front was never meant to even get onto a lawn, much less a gravel road, and god forbid, mud.

[Rooikat]

Why they put those low front mud guards on an "adventure" bike, I have no idea.

I would say something that makes the bike un-rideable in terrain that the machine was "meant" for is a pretty stupid idea - wouldn't you?  After all an "adventure" bike shouldn't seize up solid in mud should it?

KTM's also have them with the same results.  

Surely somebody at the various OEM's should wake up and stop including them in the design?

Or this another one of the "fashion" things were a disfunctional design persists because somebody thinks it looks nice?

+1 That's how "adventure" bikes are sold.

[Grrrr....]

Ja, BMW's are k@k!

Absolutely.  Worst bike ever build, especially the 1200 GS Adventure.

Can't fathom anyone actually wanting to ride one. 

Absolutely.

They are complete kak, horrible to ride and own.

.

.

.

.

.
but at least they're better than KTMs.
 

Tell me about it.... I'm so embarrassed taking my piece of k@k out of the garage these days.... I mean really! A aircooled twin?! Are we flying propeller planes from WW1?!

Stupid Germans.... I 'sommer' wants to cry.

[Welsh]

Why they put those low front mud guards on an "adventure" bike, I have no idea.

I would say something that makes the bike un-rideable in terrain that the machine was "meant" for is a pretty stupid idea - wouldn't you?  After all an "adventure" bike shouldn't seize up solid in mud should it?

KTM's also have them with the same results.  

Surely somebody at the various OEM's should wake up and stop including them in the design?

Or this another one of the "fashion" things were a disfunctional design persists because somebody thinks it looks nice?

Strange that, many of the Dakar bikes did day one with high guard (mud) back to low guard next day for stability in the drier terrain at speed, maybe they know something

[Kaptein Bos]

 

[Heimer]

Ek kyk nou weer na jou foto's.

Jy het lekker sloot gestoot.    Alles deel van die pret. Geniet jou fiets.

[letsgofishing]

Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!