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Offline Kaptein Bos

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 04:57:20 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

No... then you'll have 20mm more mud clogging and there would be damage to something... ::)
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 04:59:49 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

No... then you'll have 20mm more mud clogging and there would be damage to something... ::)

 ::)
30mm?
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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 05:00:45 pm »
Trust the 'Mericans to fix the problem....



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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 05:02:01 pm »
Trust the 'Mericans to fix the problem....




Waar kan ek sulke training wheels vir my GS kry?

Ek het nog 'n design flaw ontdek, die ding is te swaar vir my om regop te hou.
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 05:02:07 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

No... then you'll have 20mm more mud clogging and there would be damage to something... ::)

 ::)
30mm?
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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 05:05:43 pm »
Kola

Vra vir Hentie. Iemand het vir my vertel die 'training wheels' kom saam met die shipment 'whale foreskin pimp suits' hier by ons aan.

Kan self nie wag nie!!!  :thumleft:

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 05:09:08 pm »
was also on those roads with the 1200GS, actualy had a lot of fun, if you ride just fast enough that mud is slung of the wheel before it becomes a problem. :D
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 05:13:35 pm »
Uuuummmm maybe it's zee tyres boeta ??? :pot: :peepwall:
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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 05:14:48 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

+1

Everyone is up in arms about the words 'design flaw' and 'bmw' ....and no one comments on the fact that the 800GS with the higher guard did not have the same problem.
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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2011, 05:16:16 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

+1

Everyone is up in arms about the words 'design flaw' and 'bmw' ....and no one comments on the fact that the 800GS with the higher guard did not have the same problem.

Thank you!
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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2011, 05:21:47 pm »
Oh and since we discussing design flaws, have you noticed that your tyres continually
need replacing..I mean really , if they can put a man on the moon, cant they design a
tyre that lasts the life of the bike...???
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2011, 05:22:37 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

+1

Everyone is up in arms about the words 'design flaw' and 'bmw' ....and no one comments on the fact that the 800GS with the higher guard did not have the same problem.

Thank you!

Ja! Thank you!

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2011, 05:26:58 pm »
I say this is a major design flaw from BMW.

Fokkit, if you saw how long Hoofseun, myself and Werfetter2, kakked off in the pouring rain to try and get Werfetter's KTM950's front wheel to turn from clogged up mud you will will change your tune. Hoofseun's 800GS did not clog up at all and neither did my X-Challenge  :biggrin: :biggrin:

So this MUST be a KTM flaw then............  Oh and a TransAlp also clogged up so bad that the front wheel could not turn at all.

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2011, 05:29:33 pm »
Is it a "design flaw" or "application flaw"?
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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2011, 05:40:39 pm »
Is it a "design flaw" or "application flaw"?
+1000000000 :thumleft:
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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2011, 05:49:00 pm »
Blerrie ou spogter , sien julle het pret gehad .  :imaposer:
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2011, 05:49:57 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

KTM did learn, the 950 had a mudguard close to the front wheel, on the 990 it was lifted a bit... 8)
If you can keep your head in the midst of all this confusion, you don't understand the situation!
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2011, 05:52:04 pm »
was also on those roads with the 1200GS, actualy had a lot of fun, if you ride just fast enough that mud is slung of the wheel before it becomes a problem. :D

Believe me, that mud clay was like thick glue. It was even back-breaking work to just scrape it out. No matter how fast you can ride in that stuff, it will never be slung off.
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2011, 05:55:55 pm »
Seriously guys, all it would take - on the KTM as well - is to mount the mudguard 20mm higher up.
How hard could that have been for the "injineers" to figure out!

KTM did learn, the 950 had a mudguard close to the front wheel, on the 990 it was lifted a bit... 8)

Correct! But you can't lift it more - or the top of the mudguard will hit the lower triple clamp on full compression...
 

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Re: BMW design flaw
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2011, 06:08:41 pm »
was also on those roads with the 1200GS, actualy had a lot of fun, if you ride just fast enough that mud is slung of the wheel before it becomes a problem. :D

Believe me, that mud clay was like thick glue. It was even back-breaking work to just scrape it out. No matter how fast you can ride in that stuff, it will never be slung off.

I disagree, yes it is like glue, but it can be ridden without hassle. As "man on the moon" said, he managed fine this week-end on the Canal Roads with his 1200. There were two 1200GSA's that all managed just fine. I also had no issues on the 800, but DD650 had some trouble on a 650 Twin.