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Offline shark_za

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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2011, 11:01:34 am »
Enter some competitive riding to be put in your place.

A Trial or and Enduro to open your eyes to what you think is above average.
 

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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2011, 11:04:46 am »
I do ride enduro bikes, but that's unrelated to this poll. I guess this is about big DS bikes with fairing etc, taking on technical terrain  :mwink:
 

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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2011, 11:11:19 am »
I ride a DRZ- can I enter the poll?
I used to ride a DR650 and just couldn't handle the shame of dropping it all over the show in the sand, I was/am a severe newbie. Now I am on a DRZ and that 50kg weight saving makes a big difference. But I have been practicing skills and getting some coaching and stuff. So every now and then I have a day where I feel bakgat and I ride better (is faster better?) than most of the guys on the road. then the following weekend I will spend the entire ride checking the feel of various types of dirt with my helmet. Based on that description I am average, hey?
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2011, 11:50:54 am »
j-dog, in terms of methodology I think your wording will affect responses as well. I would much rather tick "complete newbie" or "seriously kak" than "poor", even though "poor" is not as bad on your likert scale as the other two, it sounds much worse. so I ticked "complete newbie" but I am somewhere in that poor - to - average range.

also, i heard a stat that 80% of men rate themselves as 'above average' drivers, I assume the same will be found here.
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2011, 11:56:15 am »
j-dog, in terms of methodology I think your wording will affect responses as well. I would much rather tick "complete newbie" or "seriously kak" than "poor", even though "poor" is not as bad on your likert scale as the other two, it sounds much worse. so I ticked "complete newbie" but I am somewhere in that poor - to - average range.

also, i heard a stat that 80% of men rate themselves as 'above average' drivers, I assume the same will be found here.

Does this help? I've kept the original wording mostly (so as not to affect the results to date too much) but added numbers...
 

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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2011, 12:00:28 pm »
Maybe average should be 5 - would that affect the distribution a bit?
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2011, 12:02:49 pm »
Maybe average should be 5 - would that affect the distribution a bit?

yeah it wud mess it up
 

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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2011, 12:05:06 pm »
lets see if we can get a couple hundred votes - should be revealing.

there can't be much data of this kind in existence. I'd also like to check years of experience and correlate, plus a coupe of tother things.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2011, 12:05:31 pm by J-dog »
 

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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2011, 12:26:37 pm »
Maybe average should be 5 - would that affect the distribution a bit?

yeah it wud mess it up

??? if the scale is 0-10, then average is 5 - why would that mess it up?
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2011, 12:49:45 pm »
at best, average
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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2011, 01:43:08 pm »
Is seems like more people are above average ??? So what is the new average? ;D
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2011, 01:56:32 pm »
Free out of ten. Yeh Pappa.  :binkybaby:
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2011, 01:59:46 pm »
I filled out average.  But also having a bit of a problem with the "Benchmark".

Years ago I was riding a Honda 250 and picked up some skills and became quite fast around Honda Park and Blue Gums (1980's and on). 

I also had a Maico 250 and an IT 490 with drum brakes (the drums gave you no assist wth breaking for a while after going through water) and the Yami tought me a lot about EMERGENCY DRILLS like leaping of before you crash etc.

Now I am idling along on a BMwobble me... and here-in lies the question.....

Sure I have accumalated some skills... but I may have been doing the wrong thing for the last 30 years...

I fall less than when I started but still more often than I would want to !!

Saturday I was "testing" my new Heidi back and TKC front by riding in the rain with my mate on his brand new 300 KTM.

Now he is new at it and I am on a 1150 and during this jol I fell over Twice (2 x,  twee keer ) and he never fell over once.

So when it comes to answering... (he with no experience and me with years of riding... WTF)... I assume that one can blame the tool I used for crossing the rivers and muddy quarries with...

But should an AVERAGE rider not know better than to do this ...
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2011, 03:33:51 pm »
This is  so funny as I realised yesterday I am super pathetic on TAR yes tar. I have no clue what I am doing, Weskus destoyed me on his 800 without even trying so I suppose I am 5 / 10 then.
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2011, 03:36:08 pm »
This is  so funny as I realised yesterday I am super pathetic on TAR yes tar. I have no clue what I am doing, Weskus destoyed me on his 800 without even trying so I suppose I am 5 / 10 then.

tar doesn't count  :mwink: I see the new average is "above average" Therefore everyone needs to mentally shift down a notch, giving their real skill level.  :mwink:
 

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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2011, 03:38:33 pm »
Me decidedly average....and happy! ;D
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2011, 04:00:42 pm »
Yeah.  I can recall something in the past about George Bush being surprised to find that 50% of the American population has below average IQ.  (I think he must have been in that 50 %  ;D )
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2011, 04:12:41 pm »
I think I'm just below average.   :ricky:

I've never been for any training. Been through the baviaanskloof at a nice pace through klaarstroom at a very good pace all off-road.
Can't remember what speed but in klaarstroom my GS1100 bottomed out a few time. Over the swartberge and from the turn off to the desend into 'die hell' I was doing about 120km/h. over one of the hump on this stretch the bike was air-born but putting it down didn't bottom out to my surprise.  :thumleft: this was great stuff


...but i don't like any slippery mud and very steep descends.  :thumleft:
:ricky: Leave the tar behind and explorer the dirt :ricky:
 

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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2011, 07:11:17 pm »
Average?????And here i sit for two years thinking all DS riders were riding gods...........
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Re: *How do you rate <<YOUR>> skill level? (POLL)
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2011, 07:44:44 pm »
I was thinking about this recently. I went to drag footpegs in the lower free state this weekend on a road I did not know. While doing that I found myself regularly doing mid-turn corrections, due to misjudging the entry points. Before the weekend I watched an interview with Ben Spies, where it was pointed out how he was able to run incredible lap times on tracks he did not know. The key obviously being his ability to get the correct line and entry points. And that in itself is the reason I am sitting here and not competing at their level - I do not have their ability to magically see the best line. And I weigh at least double what those riders weigh.

My point is: we rate ourselves according to our known abilities, and perhaps we have some comparison with riding buddies and so on. However when we compare to someone like Marc Coma, we realize our deficiencies, and we adjust our ratings. This poll asks me to rate myself - how good I think I am, but it does not set a benchmark. To get a reasonable rating it has to be relative to a specific benchmark.

I also want to mention that rating according to years experience riding is worthless. It just means you have been doing it wrong for longer.