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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 04:59:02 pm »
The salesman at Triumph Fourways took my F800 for a spin, he had never ridden one  :drif: . His comment was: Excellent brakes, there's more weight on the front wheel than the Triumph and the BM has a more active low end, the benefit of the parallel twin.

I've done quite a bit to my bike so it's not comparable to the standard 800. Very important to me is the piece of mind I get from the excellent service I've had with Northside. They are a good outfit. Never had to wait for spares, services and always had rapid turnaround.

So the whole package deal is affordability, quality, durability, extendability, serviceability, rideability, saleability, looker, safety, availability of parts and accessories. I get all of that so I'm a happy chappie  :laughing4:

I don't understand this - care to explain?
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2011, 05:07:08 pm »
The salesman at Triumph Fourways took my F800 for a spin, he had never ridden one  :drif: . His comment was: Excellent brakes, there's more weight on the front wheel than the Triumph and the BM has a more active low end, the benefit of the parallel twin.

I've done quite a bit to my bike so it's not comparable to the standard 800. Very important to me is the piece of mind I get from the excellent service I've had with Northside. They are a good outfit. Never had to wait for spares, services and always had rapid turnaround.

So the whole package deal is affordability, quality, durability, extendability, serviceability, rideability, saleability, looker, safety, availability of parts and accessories. I get all of that so I'm a happy chappie  :laughing4:

I don't understand this - care to explain?

It's dealer talk for "goes like hell!!"



I think he ment it has more lower down torque.
Which is a good thing for offroad riding.
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2011, 05:08:30 pm »
The salesman at Triumph Fourways took my F800 for a spin, he had never ridden one  :drif: . His comment was: Excellent brakes, there's more weight on the front wheel than the Triumph and the BM has a more active low end, the benefit of the parallel twin.

I've done quite a bit to my bike so it's not comparable to the standard 800. Very important to me is the piece of mind I get from the excellent service I've had with Northside. They are a good outfit. Never had to wait for spares, services and always had rapid turnaround.

So the whole package deal is affordability, quality, durability, extendability, serviceability, rideability, saleability, looker, safety, availability of parts and accessories. I get all of that so I'm a happy chappie  :laughing4:

I don't understand this - care to explain?

It's dealer talk for "goes like hell!!"



I think he ment it has more lower down torque.
Which is a good thing for offroad riding.


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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 05:52:20 pm »
I must agree, the GS does have more low down grunt, but once you are used to the power characteristics of the Tiger it is fine...it just has to be ridden a bit more aggressively....
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2011, 06:07:02 pm »
The GS can putt around at low revs (if you can control that throttle), as can the Tiger, but when you twist the ear from idle the GS has a bit more urgency to a point.
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2011, 06:16:02 pm »
The GS can putt around at low revs (if you can control that throttle), as can the Tiger, but when you twist the ear from idle the GS has a bit more urgency to a point.

a "point" being ~2000rpm  :D
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2011, 06:21:59 pm »
The GS can putt around at low revs (if you can control that throttle), as can the Tiger, but when you twist the ear from idle the GS has a bit more urgency to a point.

a "point" being ~2000rpm  :D
I am by no mean an experienced rider, I had no problem with the frottle on my 800gs from when I bought the bike up till now, I find it best to use 1 finger only on the clutch, but for the Triumph I cannot comment as I had not had an opertunity to test the bike yet, I also do not give a damn it it sell more units than the Beemer or if everyone tells me that it is a better better bike than mine, I bought the Beemer because I like it.
 

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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2011, 06:30:44 pm »
It would be unfair to say the Tiger is 'better' than the GS, both have their strengths...there might not be many GS owners that will sell and then buy a Tiger, but it certainly opens up the market wrt options out there. Before there was not anything else in the 800 market, if you did not want a large 1200 or felt a 650 was too small, you bought an 800, and there was only one choice....now there are 3...the GS, the Tiger and the Tiger XC....the Tiger is not a detuned version of the XC at least....just a bit lower with road biased wheels....but still full power... 8)
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2011, 07:20:47 pm »
It would be unfair to say the Tiger is 'better' than the GS, both have their strengths...there might not be many GS owners that will sell and then buy a Tiger, but it certainly opens up the market wrt options out there. Before there was not anything else in the 800 market, if you did not want a large 1200 or felt a 650 was too small, you bought an 800, and there was only one choice....now there are 3...the GS, the Tiger and the Tiger XC....the Tiger is not a detuned version of the XC at least....just a bit lower with road biased wheels....but still full power... 8)
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2011, 07:40:54 pm »
I'm very curious about the Triumph.

Havent ridden the F800GS yet, but I'm biased since I'm a Triumph rider right now.
From my Street Triple, I know what the potential is of a 3 cylinder. Its got torque like no 600 4-inline has on the low-down.
The Tiger has a longer stroke, so that should mean more torque if I'm correct.

I see it as the ideal replacement for my Street Triple. Cant wait to ride one.
But I'm also very curious about build quality and it's weakspots in design.

Weakspots are no problem for me, IF it can be improved/replaced in a reasonable fashion.
Like the Africa Twin: seat is shit, fuel pump kak, regulator/rectifier is crap. But all can be modded fairly easy. Leaves nothing but a very reliable bike!

In general I believe that a bike is considered good and reliable if the production/model lasts for many years without major changes and problems in reliability. (again, see Africa Twin or just any Honda for that matter  :P). BMW isnt kak, it's just not Honda. I'm not sure yet where to place Triumph...

So let's start a topic in another 5 years and see where we're at  ;D
 

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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2011, 04:31:02 pm »
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2011, 06:35:26 pm »
I rode both 800's today, and I liked them.

Firstly, there is no reason to buy the standard 800 instead of the XC, unless you are three feet high and can't touch the floor on the higher XC.

The power doesn't come as quickly as a twin at low RPM, but this is made up for by the fact that it has a more consistent power band after that. We took it around the handling track at Gerotek, and it both models handling well, but better road tyres would've helped.
The pic below was taken at the mountain course. Suspension works. Well.  :thumleft:

I didn't find any problems with the brakes. BMW has that horrible brake assist rubbish that makes it bite quicker, but also makes it jerky at low speeds and less controllable on gravel. Thank you Triumph for not putting that junk on the Tiger!

The Triumph doesn't sound like an industrial vacuum cleaner, so that is certainly better than the BMW.  ;D

Overall, is it better than the BMW? Well, if you don't like BMW's, and you don't want to be classified as a sheep, then yes. If you have a BMW, and you like it, then keep it and enjoy.

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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2011, 06:38:13 pm »
I rode both 800's today, and I liked them.

Firstly, there is no reason to buy the standard 800 instead of the XC, unless you are three feet high and can't touch the floor on the higher XC.

The power doesn't come as quickly as a twin at low RPM, but this is made up for by the fact that it has a more consistent power band after that. We took it around the handling track at Gerotek, and it both models handling well, but better road tyres would've helped.
The pic below was taken at the mountain course. Suspension works. Well.  :thumleft:

I didn't find any problems with the brakes. BMW has that horrible brake assist rubbish that makes it bite quicker, but also makes it jerky at low speeds and less controllable on gravel. Thank you Triumph for not putting that junk on the Tiger!

The Triumph doesn't sound like an industrial vacuum cleaner, so that is certainly better than the BMW.  ;D

Overall, is it better than the BMW? Well, if you don't like BMW's, and you don't want to be classified as a sheep, then yes. If you have a BMW, and you like it, then keep it and enjoy.

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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2011, 08:53:13 pm »
Gee hom gas johanna, kan sien dis nie joune nie  :laughing4: >:D

When I was on one it felt as if there is a gap problem between the gear with rider boots on, like its a tight fit.
However it can be changed.
On another forum its mentioned about a rear tire hugger or something cause your pants get splashed etc from behind?

Then the gap between the front wheel and the front tire hugger thing loooks really small, any problems.

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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2011, 08:59:09 pm »
Gee hom gas johanna, kan sien dis nie joune nie  :laughing4: >:D

When I was on one it felt as if there is a gap problem between the gear with rider boots on, like its a tight fit.
However it can be changed.
On another forum its mentioned about a rear tire hugger or something cause your pants get splashed etc from behind?

Then the gap between the front wheel and the front tire hugger thing loooks really small, any problems.

O love this bike


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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2011, 09:11:51 pm »
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2011, 09:46:06 pm »
bird in flight...

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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2011, 10:48:39 pm »
Saw in the Superbike mag the review nice read.
However did you see the nice triumph t-shirt on the product manager.
I want one so while I dont have it I can pretend to be it.
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2011, 10:52:41 pm »
Damn , I want to hear this thing with a nice oval yoshi or FMF on. Full taps lifting the front in second, O the music.
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Re: New Triumph 800 test ride
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2011, 05:31:37 am »
OK, so the Triumph has a decent review so far. By all accounts there's nothing of significance to be concerned or unhappy about, well maybe: the 4 month waiting list for stock. There's quite a few things that need to be checked off before you can complete the owners satisfaction profile. Time Will be the determining factor for the rest - quality, reliability, durability, serviceability, parts availability, adding on the extras.

The F800 has passed all of those with flying colours IMO. Testimony to the quality and reliability are the 30 bikes that took part in the recent GS trophy, where there was not a single mechanical failure! That's quite a bench mark. Good luck Triumph!
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