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Offline Slaaiblaar

Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« on: February 04, 2011, 02:27:09 am »
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 05:24:53 am »
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 05:32:14 am »
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Mwah ha ha - chassis, toolbox and the exhaust is water cooled
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 06:35:27 am »
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 06:38:55 am »
Nou-ja-toe !!!
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 07:12:32 am »
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 07:15:18 am »
Keine wasser bitte!  ;)
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 07:38:13 am »
Water cooled boxer
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 07:45:22 am »
Its the next logical step. Sounds interesting. Dig the boxer in the pool  :imaposer:
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 07:46:12 am »
Water cooled boxer


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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 08:04:47 am »
Water cooled Boxer. Chassis - toolbox & exhaust water cooled  :imaposer:

Looking at the drawing in the article: Crossflow head. Interesting. The pre war boxer concept & some traditionalism finally laid to rest.

I still think they should finally and forever shelve the boxer and bring the F1200GS
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 08:06:28 am »
Or even a 1000cc Parallel twin :mwink:
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 08:07:19 am »
Having said that a big GS without a Boxer Motor just wouldnt be a GS
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 08:11:30 am »
Love the boxer thank you, can not wait for this one.
 

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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 08:12:05 am »

I still think they should finally and forever shelve the boxer and bring the F1200GS

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Yes, it's been a total business flop. Don't know why they persist ...
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 08:17:16 am »

I still think they should finally and forever shelve the boxer and bring the F1200GS

 ::)

Yes, it's been a total business flop. Don't know why they persist ...
If we would have persisted with proven designs just because they are proven we would still sit in a cave with hand axes and bifaces ::)

I think a 800cc to 1000cc parallel twin is the ideal engine for a large DS bike.
The Superten's 1200cc mill IMHO is overkill. It still makes me a bit sad that Yamaha never saw fit to bring a Super Ténéré variant of the fantastic TDM850 / TDM900.

But we've been there before.
They give us 250kg+ 100hp+ 1200cc+ monsters.
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2011, 08:26:30 am »
So you want BMW to can the boxer, because you think its over the wall ... but you're sad because Yamaha did not put the tdm motor in the STen?

BTW .. how old is the parallel twin concept?
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 08:31:05 am »

I still think they should finally and forever shelve the boxer and bring the F1200GS

 ::)

Yes, it's been a total business flop. Don't know why they persist ...

It still makes me a bit sad that Yamaha never saw fit to bring a Super Ténéré variant of the fantastic TDM850 / TDM900.

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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 08:47:17 am »
So you want BMW to can the boxer, because you think its over the wall ... but you're sad because Yamaha did not put the tdm motor in the STen?

BTW .. how old is the parallel twin concept?

I never said the TDM engine.
But maybe derivate / development based on it?
There is nothing wrong with the TDM engine mechanically. It's up to date. Give it FI and a catalytic converter and it will be just as economic and environmentally friendly as a BMW

BTW the parallel twin is a very old concept.
It's been pursued by most manufacturers in various models and sizes over many decades at some stage. The reasons are advantages in size, weight, complexity & cost of manufacture.
The Boxer has advantages too: The biggest advantage was suitability for simple and lightweight air cooling.
Now you make it watercooled.
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How do you explain the demise of the oh so wonderful R850 boxer and its replacement with the water cooled F800 parallel twin a few years later?

And finally: I don't THINK the boxer is past its expiry day I KNOW :evil6:
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Re: Liquid cooled 1300 GS
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 08:58:46 am »
Give it FI and a catalytic converter and it will be just as economic and environmentally friendly as a BMW

So if they make the changes they will be as efficient and green as the boxer ?

If the boxer engine is so crappy and dated as you say, why would you think that other engines should aspire to it ?

There's more to the engine than just being a boxer - it's got a low centre of gravity even though it is heavy.
I agree that due to being air cooled they've pretty much reached the ceiling of what power they can get out of it, so in that case it is kinda end of line.

But according to you that shouldn't be a problem, as you don't need all the power anyway.

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