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Offline LostDOG

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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2007, 07:44:46 am »
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Shark are you doing market research on your next ride ? You are welcome to test ride my DRZ if you want. I think that a XR 650 or KTM 640 will suit you best  8)


If you are doing looking at buying when I would wait for the 690 adv. That is going to be one awesome machine. I hear that it will be out maybe towards the end of next year. Bit of a long wait but could be will worth it.


I'm told it will vibrate less as well - I look fwd to seeing this machine!
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2007, 07:50:33 am »
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If you are doing looking at buying when I would wait for the 690 adv. That is going to be one awesome machine. I hear that it will be out maybe towards the end of next year. Bit of a long wait but could be will worth it.

hopefully by then I'll be able to get one as well... nudge nudge wink wink
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2007, 08:00:50 am »
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If you are doing looking at buying when I would wait for the 690 adv. That is going to be one awesome machine. I hear that it will be out maybe towards the end of next year. Bit of a long wait but could be will worth it.

hopefully by then I'll be able to get one as well... nudge nudge wink wink
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Why? :?

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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2007, 08:01:07 am »
Look at Sharks heading, put two riders of equal ability on a KTM adv and a DRZ. The DRZ will win hands down, lighter and slimmer. It is the most dirt worthy but not as good on longer runs, oh yes and it does not vibrate at all :)
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2007, 08:03:42 am »
Here is the ralley version of the 690.

 

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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2007, 08:07:02 am »
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Look at Sharks heading, put two riders of equal ability on a KTM adv and a DRZ. The DRZ will win hands down, lighter and slimmer. It is the most dirt worthy but not as good on longer runs, oh yes and it does not vibrate at all :)


As I said, initially we answerred without readng the question.

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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2007, 08:07:48 am »
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Look at Sharks heading, put two riders of equal ability on a KTM adv and a DRZ. The DRZ will win hands down, lighter and slimmer. It is the most dirt worthy but not as good on longer runs, oh yes and it does not vibrate at all :)


DD , how much have you spent and how many things have you changed / modifyed on your bike to make it a DS bike ? One could take a a KTM 525 EXC and make it   a DS bike and it would be perfect but would take a lot of work. Lets talk about OUT OF THE BOX DS bikes.
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2007, 08:12:47 am »
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If you are doing looking at buying when I would wait for the 690 adv. That is going to be one awesome machine. I hear that it will be out maybe towards the end of next year. Bit of a long wait but could be will worth it.

hopefully by then I'll be able to get one as well... nudge nudge wink wink
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Why? :?

Just get some re-inforced handle bars on your KLE and your sorted! :twisted:  :D


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I need to upgrade from the KLE sooner or later... or make the decision to take the plunge and make it the money pit that it would take to make it what I want it to be...  The advantage of upgrading is that I'd never sell the KLE.  It's just not worth selling, worth MUCH more standing in the garage than in my back pocket... IYKWIM
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2007, 08:38:58 am »
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Look at Sharks heading, put two riders of equal ability on a KTM adv and a DRZ. The DRZ will win hands down, lighter and slimmer. It is the most dirt worthy but not as good on longer runs, oh yes and it does not vibrate at all :)


DD , how much have you spent and how many things have you changed / modifyed on your bike to make it a DS bike ? One could take a a KTM 525 EXC and make it   a DS bike and it would be perfect but would take a lot of work. Lets talk about OUT OF THE BOX DS bikes.


Stupid Question OX, but I am not familiar with the KTM motors. Is the 525 motor not the same basic LC4 (bottom End etc) as the 640 and so on how does it work?
If so I remember the 525 having a very limited oil capacity. How does the 640 get around this, is it just a high volume oil cooler system etc?
I missed a bargain 18 months ago a 525 EXC enterred once in a seniors race it went for R35K.

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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2007, 08:51:34 am »
I have the S which allready comes street legal. Motor stock, suspension stock. All my extras are cosmetic xcept for the tank. No real differance between mine and any stock DRZ S. And it's not more service intensive than any ds bike. Will a 525 go 42 000 km without work or even a valve adjustment ? I think converting any offroad bike will mean more work and less riding :)
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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2007, 08:56:34 am »
Good points DD , if your bike has done that many Ks with adjusting the valve clearance , you are doing VERY well. My main choice for leaving 4T and going back to 2T for off road , was simply that a 4 T off road bike needs a lots of maintanace WRT the motor. Keep an eye on those valves cos if that motor goes , its gonna cost more than  long night at teasers.
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2007, 09:13:40 am »
If touring ability was a factor I'll add the KLR to the list.
For this poll I'm just interesting in pure ability offroad.

Suspension, useable power, 100km range is all thats needed.
No competition bikes converted to DS cos of the issues mentioned above.

Is the DRZ suspension up to the task.
Whats the ideal weight range for that suspension do you think?
 

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2007, 09:49:40 am »
Ox I check the clearaces every 3000 km or when I feel like it, they stay put :) Shark the DRZ suspension is based on the older RM jobbies and are fully adjustable although not as good as the newer offroad bikes. Not sure about the stock spring weights. The current S has the FCR carb and E cams.
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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2007, 11:00:02 am »
my 2 cents the DR650....

low cost, low maintenace,  non water cooled ,carbed and can do everything pretty well...
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2007, 11:47:47 am »
just buy it
 

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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2007, 03:27:49 pm »
Eish, I just read that I got beaten in Winterton by one of these.
A dude finished 8th in the club 200 class riding one.

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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2007, 09:21:57 am »
Hi there you all, off course you know where my loyalties and love lies but purely off road going like de Wildt .My XR are capable but a lot off hard work I will have to go with DD i see some votes for the KTM 625 I am wondering what the decisions are based on. I have never ridden with any body nor have met anybody that uses this bike off road maybe there are some-one on the forum that has one and can take us out one day .and show us what it is capable off But until then I have to go with the DRZ.I cannot vote the XR as u can not get them new in street legal format in SA anymore .

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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2007, 09:33:11 am »
Sorry to hear shark It goes to show hare scrambles is for every body :lol:
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