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Offline Poenjas

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2011, 12:52:29 pm »
Some day, one day... hopefully not in the too far future..   :drif: :drif: :drif:
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2011, 12:56:02 pm »
It's still way lighter and faster than an XT.  ;)

Besides nothing wrong with the XT, took this video in Parklands about a year ago, stayed ahead of the XR650R all day. I had the set-up on the camera a little low that day unfortunately.


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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2011, 01:05:13 pm »
Hi RR,

I do see the point you're making and went through a similar thought process first. The weight gain is relaively insignificant and for someone that is not trying to ride technical / enduro to the extreme I believe not an issue. Like all things guess it depends on what application is for and orientation of the rider. I wanted a bike that could do more adventure / DS riding but at the same time had good suspension and reduced weight over the previous 990 I had. For me I achieved that with what I now have,  but naturally it will differ from person to person. I guess in a perfect world more than one bike is the way to go perhaps, but feel that now I have a machine that can relatively easily cover the distances for touring Iwithout having to stress about fuel range the whole way), but still handle the rougher terrain when required.


In the end I guess people pay to make things the way that makes sense for them, but not necessarily sense for all  :D

Hi DS,

You have a good point, I on the other hand enjoy it when it gets more technical and extreme and try to stay off the tar as much as possible, so my bike in its standard form is perfect for me.
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2011, 01:16:31 pm »
I meant even touring back gravel roads and long gravel streched like South Namibia etc.
Besides you're an experienced 'racer' and ride fast as you can ... so light is good  :mwink: I ride more 'rustig' so the top end I lose is irrelevant to me ... and certainly my skill level  :imaposer:

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2011, 01:26:18 pm »
I meant even touring back gravel roads and long gravel streched like South Namibia etc.
Besides you're an experienced 'racer' and ride fast as you can ... so light is good  :mwink: I ride more 'rustig' so the top end I lose is irrelevant to me ... and certainly my skill level  :imaposer:

Like I say ... we need many bikes  :ricky:

You mean like this, I have 5 bikes one for most occasions, even a cruiser  ;D

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2011, 08:50:21 pm »
Indeed, but I haven't found one yet that keeps up with my Husqvarna 610 

Ek ry nog 'n standaard 690 R, so, noem net die plek en ek kom wys jou hy is vinniger as 'n Husqvarna 610. :pot:
 

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2011, 07:00:19 pm »
Hey that sounds like a challange.How about Cape Town to Windhoek :biggrin:
 

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2011, 07:04:14 pm »
Whooo! Down boys. I dont have one, so to me those are all great bikes, especially in the rallye dress.
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2011, 07:38:48 pm »
This won't be news to anyone but the 690 is an ENDURO and that is what it will be best at.I've been down this road and all i can say is think carefully about the route you are going.Don't be blinded by the Dakar bling image.Sit down with a piece of paper and count the cost of the bike and all the upgrades it is going to cost to make it an adventure bike.In the end you will lose loads of cash when you realize it can't be an adventure bike.While the power of the engine is not bad,take the bike up to 170km/h for long stretches and you WILL have some balls in your throat moments.It is not stable at high speeds.You can throw all the money in the world but you will still have a frame that cant carry much luggage(read on advrider how many frames have cracked)and a completely sh$t FI system.If enduro is what you are doing great but any touring i would advise against the build.I have also yet to see a 690 with even 40000km that hasn't had a engine or gearbox problem.If you want to tour get a tenere,640,950,990,bmw etc etc.Read the now over 1200 pages on advrider about the bike.It might change your mind.
 

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2011, 08:09:07 am »
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2011, 12:04:01 pm »
I've had a 640, a 990 (briefly  :-[), and a 990 R.

I have a 300 with which I race enduros. I don't commute by bike, thus I'm not too worried about 40k on the odo. When biking, I also don't like long stretches of beautifully maintained tar or dirt roads. I have a car for those.

What gets my juices flowing,  is the more remote, challenging trails where you have to explore and navigate your way through places most can't/wouldn't want to go. Long connecting roads are unfortunately inevitable, I know.

What I wanted in order of preference, mostly:

Light and nimble handling,
fris suspension,
Powerful engine,
reliability,
140 km/h sustained travel
range of 400km,
multi-day comfort,
luggage
 

Other bikes (in my own very biased view):
XT 660 Z and R - Nice bike. Kak suspension, boring engine, overweight.
1200, 990, 800's - Great bikes. Overweight
XR650 R- discontinued, otherwise a good option.
other 650's. also nice bikes, but a little low on performance and high on weight. Maak my nie jags nie.

The day I start buying/riding bikes while giving most of my consideration to sound advice and good reason, as opposed to my emotions, is the day I'll realise that it is better not to have a bike at all.

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2011, 12:17:29 pm »
Funny i used to feel exactly the same as you.Until i had a 690 that is.I also owned the same bikes as you(except had the 950 not 990).At the end of the day you still want something that is even semi reliable.
I also think the power is a bit over rated.The dyno figures between my 690 and 660z are very close.
Just out of interrest how many km you got on that 690 now?
 

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2011, 12:30:05 pm »
Still new.
I'm sure if you add 50kg to the 690, it would also feel more like the Z, as your dyno results suggest.

I agree on reliability though. 2 years on KTM warranty to see how it goes? Or is it less on the 690?
 

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2011, 12:50:06 pm »
Hey guys,I like the thread. I'm with Avontier,and share his emotions. We ride together. I have had the same bikes. I recently bought a 690 r as well. I'm going with the Lynx fairing. I've heard from several riders that it is very practical,especially when you do the more technical stuff. The nice thing about it is to raise the windshield when you need to transfer.I've also gone with the safari tank.Last night I've ordered a custom renazco seat from USA. This looks like an awesome piece of equipment. Any opinions?I will also go with the touratech Luggage frames with Kaoko soft bags.
Well PS,It is very interesting what you say. We will have to experience it first hand,but,currently, we have the itch.
I often wonder what business we have to buy a bike that doesnt have anything going for it. No lights,no,tank,no seat,no frame,nothing.Is the engine so good? Tell me !!Lets keep this informative to all us newcomers to a 690!
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2011, 01:37:37 pm »
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2011, 06:23:46 pm »
Still early days, but I'm really chuffed with the bike and the mods.  :ricky: It's one thrilling bike!  >:D

The weight on the front definitely makes it more stable at higher speeds, on tar and gravel.

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2011, 08:48:57 pm »
Hey Guys , I am also with Avontier , Ive had my 690E for 6 months and all I can think about is getting on my katoom and riding the hell out of it all day long. What i enjoy is  fast twisty offroad / challenging technical stuff . As far as mods go im busy fabricating my own bash plate and front screen , based on the flatland & touratech respectively with my own flavour of coarse. Ive ordered the FMF Apex and Tidy Tail from KTM twins , i cant wait for them to arive . I dont have a problem with the seat , the first month or two it was a bit harsh , but im used to it now and to be honest i dont ride boring routes so i never get time to worry if my arse is sore... unless of coarse i see my arse !  :D
If everybody was the same and liked the same things , wouldnt this world be kak boring ?
 

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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2011, 09:42:38 pm »
Hi Roadkill. Do you think if one does 2- 300km transfer sections on road the seat will eat you? It looks terrible, We also have ordered the FMF pipe. Why did you choose a FMF?
Looking forward to travel with it. We're planning a ride from Limpopo via the Botswana border,all the way to the orange river,the pella 4x4 route,Richtersveld and down the westcoast to Jacobsbaai,and maybe the sederberge. Sort of a reverse of what we did in 2009.I'm sure we will have a better opinion after that. OOp- pinion that is,because of the seat!
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2011, 09:52:33 pm »
Hey Guys , I am also with Avontier , Ive had my 690E for 6 months and all I can think about is getting on my katoom and riding the hell out of it all day long. What i enjoy is  fast twisty offroad / challenging technical stuff . As far as mods go im busy fabricating my own bash plate and front screen , based on the flatland & touratech respectively with my own flavour of coarse. Ive ordered the FMF Apex and Tidy Tail from KTM twins , i cant wait for them to arive . I dont have a problem with the seat , the first month or two it was a bit harsh , but im used to it now and to be honest i dont ride boring routes so i never get time to worry if my arse is sore... unless of coarse i see my arse !  :D
If everybody was the same and liked the same things , wouldnt this world be kak boring ?

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Mine had the FMF on when I got it and besides weight difference and sound, the difference in heat is beyond description. I can ride for an hour, and still keep my hand to it ! .. Excellent for soft luggage and peace of mind  with far lower fire risk.

Absolutely loving the 690 !
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Re: 690 Adventure R
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2011, 09:07:27 am »
Indeed, but I haven't found one yet that keeps up with my Husqvarna 610 

I'll give it a try
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