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Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« on: March 15, 2011, 10:15:08 am »
Here's an opportunity for all wannabe (and established) Desert Racers - it is going to be awesome!!

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In 1975 The Four Wheel Drive Club of Southern Africa – Gauteng Branch (FWDCSA) held the first Trans Kalahari Road race in the Vryburg area, then in 1980 the race moved to Botswana and the Toyota Desert Race was born. The first bikes competed in the event in 1986; with quads joining a few years later and for most of the time Bikes and Quads have been an integral part of the annual Toyota Desert 1000 Race (TDR), which is part of the ABSA Off Road series.
Now on the 25th anniversary of their inclusion in the TDR, the FWDCSA is pleased to announce that a new event has been added to the Southern Africa Off Road Bike and Quad calendar ….. The Mantshwabise 1000.
This marathon race (named after the village which the race used for many years as an overnight stop) brings with it all the history and the legacy of the past but in a new "stand alone" event for bikes and quads which will soon rival similar events such as the Roof of Africa and the Baja.
Taking place on June 23rd and 24th 2011(before the TDR) the competitors will use a 1000 kilometer route, beginning and ending at Race Headquarters / DSP located in the village of Kumakwane. The DSP is a fully fenced, secure 85 000 square meter "Dakar Style" encampment north of Kumakwane, 25kms west of Gaborone, with dedicated pit areas, wash bays, full bar & catering, all amenities, medical facilities and spectator grand stands.
After documentation on the 22nd, competitors will race 2 loops of a 250km route; challenging the skills, tenacity and endurance of both rider and machine; then if that is not tough enough, riders will complete the event by doing two laps of a different 250 km route the next day!
Across the 500kms of route there are many spectator points and the support of the local population in Botswana is legendary.
The event will also form Rounds 4 and 5 of the Southern Africa Off Road Challenge (SORC) for riders from Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia and Zambia, but will not be part of any South African National or Regional championship.
Classes are in line with the SORC championship and based simply on engine size as well as the applicable MSA and FIM technical requirements.
- Bikes Class A – 2 stroke below 250cc or 4 stroke below 400cc
- Bikes Class B – all other bikes
- Quads Class C – Below 450cc
- Quads Class D – Above 450cc
Within each Class there will be, in support of the Women in Motorsport organisation, a ladies category.
Minimum age for entry is 16 as at June 1st 2011, but only riders over the age 18 at the same date will be allowed to ride the full 500kms each day; younger riders will only do one lap of the 250km route each day.
In order to compete, riders will have to comply with the following:
- Be holders of a valid and recognised National, Regional or Club competition licience for any form of Bike or Quad racing.
- Have competed in at least 2 races in the 12 months prior to June 1st 2011.
- Be in possession of sufficient medical insurance valid for competitive motorsport in Botswana.
- Be physically fit and with a MSA medical clearance if applicable.
Over the years, the challenge of riding and surviving the 1000kms through the Botswana bush has drawn many riders and those who have had the skill, spirit, courage and determination proudly display their finisher’s medals and trophies. Stories abound of the race amongst those who have risen to this challenge and completed the race.
Prize money of at least R20 000 (number of entries will determine final prize value) plus trophies, team awards and medals await those riders who have the "right stuff" to tackle this event with entries opening on May 16th 2011. Numbers will be restricted to 200 entrants in total and the entry fee will be R1200.00 (incl VAT) per rider.
The race is being organized by the team from the FWDCSA with all its’ more than 30 years’ experience of managing the TDR and promises to be a world class event. The competitors will be supported by a race structure second to none – 50 government officials, 350 policemen and
women, over 50 Marshals, 12 para-medics, 2 off-road ambulances and 2 road ambulances, a medical helicopter, all of which are managed via full coverage of the route via two radio networks.
Fuel will be transported by the race organisers to the two refuel points which will be manned by teams from the ATV Club in Pretoria who have fulfilled this role for many years.
Nearby camping and host of other accommodation options in Gaborone are available to entrants and the organisers have agreements in place to smooth the crossing of the border at designated border posts.
Further information to follow.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 10:42:38 am »
Me me me.

I will hopefully have an opening in my scedule :imaposer:.
But yes Darksider I want to do this badly good prep for me and testing the rally bike hopefully.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 04:33:30 pm »
Uummm. Might just take a ride up to go and watch this. :mwink: Would have been better if it was the weekend before 16th and 17th as the 16th is a public holiday. ???
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 04:40:24 pm »
Hmmmm... I wonder if my KDX would make it??? Actually, I wonder if I would make it !!!  :D
Sounds like an awesome challenge  :thumleft:
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 04:44:45 pm »
Buff daai KDX sal dit maak en omdat dit nie 'n National is nie gaan jy dit met ' regional lisensie kan doen :mwink:.

Manne Botswana is sekerlik my gunsteling ry area. Ek bly teen 'n berg ek moet heeldag op klippe ry daai Botswana doringbos en sand is heerlik heeldag!!!
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 04:53:11 pm »
One day when I am big.  :)
 

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 04:59:59 pm »
One day when I am big.  :)

Don't you have a KTM 300??

Guys there is no time like now oneday can never come and then you will always regret this. :ricky:
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 05:00:57 pm »
Buff daai KDX sal dit maak en omdat dit nie 'n National is nie gaan jy dit met ' regional lisensie kan doen :mwink:.

I like the way you think. I'm gonna mark this one down in my 2012 diary. I've already booked and paid for the June/July school holidays in the Transkei so the cashflow is urhmmmm... not flowing at the moment. And we won't even mention the leave issue  ::).
Maybe we can get a few dogs together and go up in  a group? Dux can be our mackie and hopefully Domstes will have his KDX by then  :pot:
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2011, 05:16:56 pm »
One day when I am big.  :)

Don't you have a KTM 300??

Guys there is no time like now oneday can never come and then you will always regret this. :ricky:

I wish. I made the mistake of riding one. Man it is BRILLIANT. But I am not sure I will do it justice.
I might get a KDX and just try the water for a bit. I did a bit of motoX as a kid on a borrowed bike and I know how fit you need to be.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2011, 12:34:43 pm »
I want to do this, but logistics is a little problem........,

1.do I ship my quad for the race, do the race and ship it back, that amount to a lot of $$$$moola.
2. can I rent a race ready quad in SA?
3. getting to the race, don't have car in SA need to rent 1 $$$$
4. support for me in the sense of refueling, mechanics etc

I received an email from the organisers with the following comments :

You will need a letter of release from UAE federation proving that you have competed there and are not “black listed” for any transgressions within the sport.
·         The event itself is part of a FIM Africa event, and you may take out a FIM Africa licence at the cost of US$10.00 for the event/alternatively MSA may require you to take out an MSA licence.
·         Medical cover is a major concern, MSA will need proof that you have sufficient medical cover.


All the points on the email is covered but the bike is the biggest hurdle at this stage.....So maybe I should just let this 1 slip until next year  >:( when we can come down as a group with maybe 2-5 bikes and quads....?

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2011, 12:52:03 pm »
Also known as the Toyota 1000 Desert Race.

2011 will be my 15th that I am involved with.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 01:31:53 pm »
Also known as the Toyota 1000 Desert Race.

2011 will be my 15th that I am involved with.

Are we running the same route? Just not starting at Game city?

I have done a national and a regional(this race more or less)  and the route differed somewhat.
I want to do this, but logistics is a little problem........,

1.do I ship my quad for the race, do the race and ship it back, that amount to a lot of $$$$moola.
2. can I rent a race ready quad in SA?
3. getting to the race, don't have car in SA need to rent 1 $$$$
4. support for me in the sense of refueling, mechanics etc

I received an email from the organisers with the following comments :

You will need a letter of release from UAE federation proving that you have competed there and are not “black listed” for any transgressions within the sport.
·         The event itself is part of a FIM Africa event, and you may take out a FIM Africa licence at the cost of US$10.00 for the event/alternatively MSA may require you to take out an MSA licence.
·         Medical cover is a major concern, MSA will need proof that you have sufficient medical cover.


All the points on the email is covered but the bike is the biggest hurdle at this stage.....So maybe I should just let this 1 slip until next year  >:( when we can come down as a group with maybe 2-5 bikes and quads....?



Easiest cheapest for you is get a MSA regional Lisense and their medical cover.
Buy a secondhand race quad in SA I would say. And sell again afterwards.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 01:36:45 pm »
Can dual sport bikes enter too?
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2011, 01:43:55 pm »
Can dual sport bikes enter too?

Smaller sized DS bikes could yes. BUT they will take a beating. The thorn bushes and trees take no prisioners.It won't be easy thou as the whoops in some sections needs some speed and throttle. I don't think IT WILL BE EASY ON A BIG BIKE, but Albert did it on his KTM 660R so it is possible.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2011, 03:13:39 pm »
Also known as the Toyota 1000 Desert Race.

2011 will be my 15th that I am involved with.

BmerMike are you going up with Andre or Maddog and Marshaling again? :peepwall:
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2011, 04:10:37 pm »
Three years ago there were two Dakar ready bikes that entered as training for poss Dakar. After about 30 or so Kms we asked (told) them to get off the race track. They just could not cope with that sand, mud, bush etc and kept falling, they were keeping back our sweep vehicle at a serious rate.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2011, 04:14:01 pm »
Also known as the Toyota 1000 Desert Race.

2011 will be my 15th that I am involved with.

BmerMike are you going up with Andre or Maddog and Marshaling again? :peepwall:

Yip, I will be up there marking the route followed by marshalling it and thereafter will demark it, should take almost two weeks as the bikes will not be riding on the same days as the cars which makes the race almost twice as long.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2011, 04:16:39 pm »
"Are we running the same route? Just not starting at Game city?"

Game City has become too built up for the race and as such the pits, start and poss finish now takes place at Kumakwane.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2011, 07:35:40 pm »
I want to do this, but logistics is a little problem........,

1.do I ship my quad for the race, do the race and ship it back, that amount to a lot of $$$$moola.
2. can I rent a race ready quad in SA?
3. getting to the race, don't have car in SA need to rent 1 $$$$
4. support for me in the sense of refueling, mechanics etc


Halve the costs with me.....  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2011, 08:37:28 pm »
Three years ago there were two Dakar ready bikes that entered as training for poss Dakar. After about 30 or so Kms we asked (told) them to get off the race track. They just could not cope with that sand, mud, bush etc and kept falling, they were keeping back our sweep vehicle at a serious rate.

This was Albert and Hein. Hein is doing Dakar 2012. I rememeber he had some problems
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