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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2011, 09:05:54 pm »
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2011, 09:54:19 pm »
Our Hein? As in Killroy??
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2011, 10:40:04 pm »
nee nee nie Kilroy nie.

Hein Joubert hy het 2007 Dakar dag 6 of 7 gehaal.Hy gaan 2012 met 'n KLX 450 gaan blykbaar ek hoor ook maar net so deur die grapevine.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2011, 06:58:57 am »
Halve the costs with me.....  :thumleft:

Mick, I would half the cost with you but this is a serious race and fitness must be top notch, I think we should get our ducks in a row for next year, after I have done the Desert challenge, maybe we could get a bunch of guys going down as a team.

Tau, will look into that option of buying a quad in SA and do the race.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2011, 11:35:28 am »
Also known as the Toyota 1000 Desert Race.

2011 will be my 15th that I am involved with.

Beemer Mike, do you have any info additional to what I posted in the first post? Do you know when the rules and regulations will become available? Only one class (ito race distance)?
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2011, 06:27:20 pm »
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2011, 10:29:30 am »
Also known as the Toyota 1000 Desert Race.

2011 will be my 15th that I am involved with.

Beemer Mike, do you have any info additional to what I posted in the first post? Do you know when the rules and regulations will become available? Only one class (ito race distance)?

Check the MSA website as well as the FWDCSA website. All details should be there.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2011, 03:08:34 pm »
Hi guys...please talk some sense into my head before I start planning something silly.

I've always wanted to do the Toyota 1000, but have never gotten around to doing soemthing even close to it.

Is this scenario do-able?: Ride up to the race unsupported from Joburg, do the race (just finish, not compete), ride back. How would a DRZ400E do on the terrain there?

Kind of a mini-dakar?
 

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2011, 03:32:52 pm »
Loopsoosstroop.

I will never piss on anybody's dream or goals so lets get the facts and plans sorted, and be realistic.

Have you ever done a fun enduro or race?
Have you ever done 200 km in one day?

If yes then you can do it no problem. Get fit and train and get yourself ready for a body bashing. You won't be able ride the bike there and do the race and ride back. You will need support crew to do refuels and carry spares for servicing bike after day 1.

If you have never done any racing before the 1000 will knock you down, and unless you are very fit and mentally strong I do not C a complete Noob doing the 1000.Not impossible but very difficult.

If I was you I would race prep my bike and do 1 oe 2 of the EWXC or WFO's or something they are 1/4 or less of the didtance and good training and race "learning" events.

The Botswana is amazing, but it is hard and long. Have you ever done 500km gravel in one day? Well this is 500km of tweespoor and singletrack lined with trees and in thick sand.

The DRZ400 will do it. Just remove the lights and fit some racing rubber, handgaurds and service her and she will do the race easy. After day 1 change oil clean air filter. and go hard again day 2.

It is possible, BUT please don't go unfit and not race ready otherwise you will get injured or quit and it won't be lekker it is a hard race on the body from all the whoops and jumps and bumps.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2011, 03:56:16 pm »
Loopsoosstroop.

I will never piss on anybody's dream or goals so lets get the facts and plans sorted, and be realistic.

Have you ever done a fun enduro or race?
Have you ever done 200 km in one day?

If yes then you can do it no problem. Get fit and train and get yourself ready for a body bashing. You won't be able ride the bike there and do the race and ride back. You will need support crew to do refuels and carry spares for servicing bike after day 1.

If you have never done any racing before the 1000 will knock you down, and unless you are very fit and mentally strong I do not C a complete Noob doing the 1000.Not impossible but very difficult.

If I was you I would race prep my bike and do 1 oe 2 of the EWXC or WFO's or something they are 1/4 or less of the didtance and good training and race "learning" events.

The Botswana is amazing, but it is hard and long. Have you ever done 500km gravel in one day? Well this is 500km of tweespoor and singletrack lined with trees and in thick sand.

The DRZ400 will do it. Just remove the lights and fit some racing rubber, handgaurds and service her and she will do the race easy. After day 1 change oil clean air filter. and go hard again day 2.

It is possible, BUT please don't go unfit and not race ready otherwise you will get injured or quit and it won't be lekker it is a hard race on the body from all the whoops and jumps and bumps.

Thanks tau for your response! Pretty much what I expected.... not planning to do it this year, dont worry!  ;D

I've managed to get hold of a KDX to start training on, plan is to do a few races first this year and first half of next and then maybe be ready for it next year (wife not going to be happy!)

I've done 800 km mixed days and one or two 500 km gravel days, but that was nice karoo dirt, not tweespoor and sand. I appreciate that it will be a entirely different ball game.

The fitness and stamina challenges is what draws me, it doesn't chase me away...

Isnt the offroads series better prep for the Toyota 1000 than EWXC and WFO? Those are enduros?


 

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2011, 04:41:59 pm »
Cool loopsoosstroop that sounds like a plan. Even thou the Enduro's is not the same they are very tough on the body and mind so they are better training to get the body used to a hard day in the seat. I have done 3 hr enduro's that left me worse for wear than a National offroad.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2011, 05:02:31 pm »
Cool loopsoosstroop that sounds like a plan. Even thou the Enduro's is not the same they are very tough on the body and mind so they are better training to get the body used to a hard day in the seat. I have done 3 hr enduro's that left me worse for wear than a National offroad.

Makes sense.... and I suppose the less time spent at high speed the better ne! Must say the Enduros intimidate me much more than the offroads.
 

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2011, 10:21:49 am »
Hi guys...please talk some sense into my head before I start planning something silly.

I've always wanted to do the Toyota 1000, but have never gotten around to doing soemthing even close to it.

Is this scenario do-able?: Ride up to the race unsupported from Joburg, do the race (just finish, not compete), ride back. How would a DRZ400E do on the terrain there?

Kind of a mini-dakar?

The Inxon series (about 200km per race) is a nice and easy way to get into racing and although not nearly as hard as a day at the 1000, it still allows you to test your equipment, skill, fitness etc at a low cost and not too much drama, especially if you are in Gauteng.

You only need a club license (R350) and race entry is R500. All venues around JHB.

I have not done a marathon event like this, but make sure I ride every weekend (De Wildt/ Wild West and so on) and try to spend around 5-6 hours on the bike, (closer to the race we will up the saddle time to 8 hours), do as many off road races and harescrambles as possible and spend a lot of time on the MTB. Hopefully that will be enough to give me a finish.  My riding buddies have done this 3 times and reckon it is the best race on the calendar.

I would be a little reluctant doing the race with a DRZ, I think it will get heavy.

Still 3 months away (well almost), I reckon go for it!!
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2011, 10:57:55 am »
I would be a little reluctant doing the race with a DRZ, I think it will get heavy.

Still 3 months away (well almost), I reckon go for it!!

DRZ only 20kg more than a KDX, 10kg more than a 450 4-stroke. Not that bad?

Haha, no I'll wait for next year. Havn't riden hard for a while, my arms will be pumped in 10 minutes at the moment...

But thanks for the advice, will def look into the Inxon series. Where can I get a schedule or more info?
 

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2011, 11:01:35 am »
What would the ideal bike be to do this race with? Considering I am not a new generation high performance 4 stroke fan, more of a old school 2 stroke fan.  ;D

Will a two stroke survive 500km a day? I assume flat out all day?
 

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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2011, 11:41:22 am »
What would the ideal bike be to do this race with? Considering I am not a new generation high performance 4 stroke fan, more of a old school 2 stroke fan.  ;D

Will a two stroke survive 500km a day? I assume flat out all day?

A 2 stroke can do it all depends on your riding style and prep before and during the race. Top 125 riders change piston and rings after day 1.

I would say a 250 -300 is your best bet and it will last the entire race with a oil change after day one and clean filter at DSP and at servive after day one. The biggest problem is the airfilters get so dirty they start forcing dirt into the intake and then damage to the rings occur.

Insure the jetting is correct and the 2 stroke will run all day long. I like 4 strokes and even they need new airfilters every 250km and oil change after day 1 will keep the clutch in working order.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2011, 09:53:28 am »
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2011, 10:08:23 am »
Nonsence... the race is on! :thumleft: The route is surveyed and MSA approved. I leave 18th to mark it, bikes and quads race is on 23rd and 24th June. Cars race 25th and 26th June.
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Re: Mantshwabise 1000 Desert Race - Botswana 22-24 June
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2011, 10:53:35 am »
Nonsence... the race is on! :thumleft: The route is surveyed and MSA approved. I leave 18th to mark it, bikes and quads race is on 23rd and 24th June. Cars race 25th and 26th June.

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