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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #100 on: May 01, 2011, 06:22:46 pm »
If these Beemer engines were so lean that by enriching the mixture you get better economy, there is surely more than a few of these bikes out there with permanent engine damage already.
This thread, helpful as it is to a lot of BMW owners, highlight one of the reasons why I am not so fond of BMW. That the mighty Germans can do you lot such a favour by allowing you to pay a shitload of money for their [electronically inferior] bikes AND ride them!! How difficult would it have been to re-engineer[with help from Kokusan denki] the electronics for the SA market? Of course that could not be done, since it would give a lot of BMW owners the right to have this stuff retro-fitted, for free, and this BMW do not want. See my point i.r.t. BMW customer "care"?
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #101 on: May 01, 2011, 06:41:05 pm »
If these Beemer engines were so lean that by enriching the mixture you get better economy, there is surely more than a few of these bikes out there with permanent engine damage already.
This thread, helpful as it is to a lot of BMW owners, highlight one of the reasons why I am not so fond of BMW. That the mighty Germans can do you lot such a favour by allowing you to pay a shitload of money for their [electronically inferior] bikes AND ride them!! How difficult would it have been to re-engineer[with help from Kokusan denki] the electronics for the SA market? Of course that could not be done, since it would give a lot of BMW owners the right to have this stuff retro-fitted, for free, and this BMW do not want. See my point i.r.t. BMW customer "care"?
We SAfricans do put up with a lot of kak.


I was told in plain simple English by the SA National Aftersales Manager that "the SA consumer law does not protect us as well as the USA's law - therefore we cannot expect to have the same rights"  The fact that there are so few - even just one of us having the issue, was not enough evidence that they should escalate the issue with the chaps in Germany.  :eek7:

Now THAT's customer service for you!   ???
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #102 on: May 01, 2011, 09:31:46 pm »
If these Beemer engines were so lean that by enriching the mixture you get better economy, there is surely more than a few of these bikes out there with permanent engine damage already.
This thread, helpful as it is to a lot of BMW owners, highlight one of the reasons why I am not so fond of BMW. That the mighty Germans can do you lot such a favour by allowing you to pay a shitload of money for their [electronically inferior] bikes AND ride them!! How difficult would it have been to re-engineer[with help from Kokusan denki] the electronics for the SA market? Of course that could not be done, since it would give a lot of BMW owners the right to have this stuff retro-fitted, for free, and this BMW do not want. See my point i.r.t. BMW customer "care"?
We SAfricans do put up with a lot of kak.


I was told in plain simple English by the SA National Aftersales Manager that "the SA consumer law does not protect us as well as the USA's law - therefore we cannot expect to have the same rights"  The fact that there are so few - even just one of us having the issue, was not enough evidence that they should escalate the issue with the chaps in Germany.  :eek7:

Now THAT's customer service for you!   ???

Well, it seems the SA National Aftersales Manager doesn't know what he is talking about because, if you want to see complaints about Boxer Beemers pinging and running lean, google the US sites.  Their issues and complaints sounds identical to ours, so not quite as much protection as he thinks.



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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #103 on: May 02, 2011, 09:19:50 am »
If these Beemer engines were so lean that by enriching the mixture you get better economy, there is surely more than a few of these bikes out there with permanent engine damage already.
This thread, helpful as it is to a lot of BMW owners, highlight one of the reasons why I am not so fond of BMW. That the mighty Germans can do you lot such a favour by allowing you to pay a shitload of money for their [electronically inferior] bikes AND ride them!! How difficult would it have been to re-engineer[with help from Kokusan denki] the electronics for the SA market? Of course that could not be done, since it would give a lot of BMW owners the right to have this stuff retro-fitted, for free, and this BMW do not want. See my point i.r.t. BMW customer "care"?
We SAfricans do put up with a lot of kak.


I was told in plain simple English by the SA National Aftersales Manager that "the SA consumer law does not protect us as well as the USA's law - therefore we cannot expect to have the same rights"  The fact that there are so few - even just one of us having the issue, was not enough evidence that they should escalate the issue with the chaps in Germany.  :eek7:

Now THAT's customer service for you!   ???

Well, it seems the SA National Aftersales Manager doesn't know what he is talking about because, if you want to see complaints about Boxer Beemers pinging and running lean, google the US sites.  Their issues and complaints sounds identical to ours, so not quite as much protection as he thinks.






This is the same dude that told me I had to admit that "Pinging or Pre-Detonation" is not always destructive... it was merely the engine's way of telling me it was working properly  :eek7:
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #104 on: May 02, 2011, 09:55:27 am »

This is the same dude that told me I had to admit that "Pinging or Pre-Detonation" is not always destructive... it was merely the engine's way of telling me it was working properly  :eek7:

Eina!  See how well BMW handles things?  They made this guy National Aftersales Manager.  He could have been Chief Mechanic!!!!!    :-\
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #105 on: May 23, 2011, 08:50:36 pm »
Has anyone fitted this to the 2010 DOHC? I am especially interested if it made any difference to the dreaded vibration some owners (me included) experience at >5000rpm on these models.
 

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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #106 on: May 23, 2011, 10:22:07 pm »
Hi there
if you are in JHB area ,come to our shop in Wadeville , we will install it for a test drive ,judge for your self...
 

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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #107 on: May 23, 2011, 10:51:06 pm »
Hi there
if you are in JHB area ,come to our shop in Wadeville , we will install it for a test drive ,judge for your self...
Now that is good service !
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #108 on: May 23, 2011, 10:56:15 pm »
thanks buddy :thumleft: , doing our best
 

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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #109 on: May 24, 2011, 04:54:21 pm »
Hi there
if you are in JHB area ,come to our shop in Wadeville , we will install it for a test drive ,judge for your self...
Now that is good service !

Not good service at all.  No siree Bob!  He knows one ride around the block with the gadget installed, it is sold.   :thumleft:
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #110 on: May 24, 2011, 04:57:50 pm »
I'll just wait for the concrete evidence to come forward on the performance changes. I have enough spiders in my head without adding to them... ;D
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #111 on: May 24, 2011, 04:58:34 pm »
it is actually the stuff we put in the coffee.... :D
we grow this in the back yard ...... :pot: it works wonders on our clients ....
 

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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #112 on: May 25, 2011, 06:29:02 am »
I bought the accelerator module of Schlowy's web shop. What a difference! Bottom end is much smoother and throttle response is instant. Riding with a pillion is way better now! - 2008 GSA

BTW, thanks for the excellent service, Schlowy!  :thumleft:
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #113 on: May 25, 2011, 07:28:41 am »
You are welcome  :D
 

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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #114 on: May 25, 2011, 09:35:58 pm »
I will have mine fitted soon. Who knows ... this may be the solution to me enjoying my GS after all. Worth the try!
 

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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #115 on: May 26, 2011, 09:06:07 am »
There is clearly a misconception out there that BMW is building these bikes to be more economical. That is not the issue - in Europe they are mandated by law to achieve certain emission control standards - this is the bugbear.

If you live in Johannesburg as an example and you have a 1200 GS you have a few problems:

- Altitude is in excess of 1500 m above sea level
- Summer days easily exceed 30 deg c
- Your BMW is Air and oil cooled
- Compression ratio can be as high as 12.05 to 1
- You have a modern lean burn engine with an air fuel ratio of 14.7 to 1
- The highest Octane rating you can get is 95 plus

With the existing engine map your oxygen and barometric pressure sensors simply cannot cope with all the above factors and soon detonation is taking place and engine damage can occur.

If you add to the above mix an aftermarket air filter and free flow exhaust there is more air coming in and exhausting and the bike runs even leaner!

What the Boosterplug does is stabilise the enrichment of the air / fuel ratio to a value of around 13.6 to 1 but the real beauty is that it does it across the whole rev range and across a very wide range of temperatures. The actual value varies but it is stable at 6 to 8 % more fuel .

I have personally experienced  much stronger accelleration  in 5 th and 6 th gear and improved throttle response whilst riding in traffic. This thing is not about improved horsepower but rather better, smoother, rideability

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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #116 on: May 26, 2011, 09:40:46 am »
Well, I could be wrong but I heard that the problem is actually worse at sea level because there you have more air and same fuel which makes the mixture even leaner.  I read a debate somewhere that there is no barometric pressure sensor in the system so your bike does not know whether you are at altitude or at sea level.  But, again, I could be wrong.

But the point is; this device really helps.  :thumleft:
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #117 on: May 26, 2011, 09:49:35 am »
If these Beemer engines were so lean that by enriching the mixture you get better economy, there is surely more than a few of these bikes out there with permanent engine damage already.
This thread, helpful as it is to a lot of BMW owners, highlight one of the reasons why I am not so fond of BMW. That the mighty Germans can do you lot such a favour by allowing you to pay a shitload of money for their [electronically inferior] bikes AND ride them!! How difficult would it have been to re-engineer[with help from Kokusan denki] the electronics for the SA market? Of course that could not be done, since it would give a lot of BMW owners the right to have this stuff retro-fitted, for free, and this BMW do not want. See my point i.r.t. BMW customer "care"?
We SAfricans do put up with a lot of kak.

I see there is also one available for the Super Ten now. Same problem :)
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #118 on: May 26, 2011, 11:13:16 am »

If these Beemer engines were so lean that by enriching the mixture you get better economy, there is surely more than a few of these bikes out there with permanent engine damage already.
This thread, helpful as it is to a lot of BMW owners, highlight one of the reasons why I am not so fond of BMW. That the mighty Germans can do you lot such a favour by allowing you to pay a shitload of money for their [electronically inferior] bikes AND ride them!! How difficult would it have been to re-engineer[with help from Kokusan denki] the electronics for the SA market? Of course that could not be done, since it would give a lot of BMW owners the right to have this stuff retro-fitted, for free, and this BMW do not want. See my point i.r.t. BMW customer "care"?
We SAfricans do put up with a lot of kak.




It has been a "Must Do" mod on all the XT660s from the beginning, also known as the kev mod.

Except it costs a lot less, can DIY for less than R100...
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Re: Boer's BMW Booster Thingamabob.
« Reply #119 on: May 26, 2011, 11:52:16 am »
There is clearly a misconception out there that BMW is building these bikes to be more economical. That is not the issue - in Europe they are mandated by law to achieve certain emission control standards - this is the bugbear.


No misconception at all.  The reasons as explained by you is exactly what has been discussed throughout the thread.
 

 



 



 
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