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Offline Buff

"Old School" & Retro Bikes
« on: April 19, 2011, 04:00:42 pm »
With a few manufacturers moving towards Retro bikes and some going back to the Old Classics e.g. XR650L, it got me thinking about what the general consensus is on this trend. An example from the bicycle history books is the classic old Raleigh Chopper that a lot of us rode as school kids. They re-lauched this bike a few years back but sales have been pathetic, partly due to technology moving on and kids interests changing but also due to the bike having slight mods that didn't have the same appeal e.g. grip shift gear changer instead of a stick shift etc.
I'm guessing it's similar in the motorcycling world, with the bikes looking the same but yet having slight variances e.g. water cooled instead of air... or a much better suspension etc. Although often an improvement, this somehow distracts from what attracted us to the bike in the first place.

What's your feeling on the subject?
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 04:03:09 pm »
Some are iconic, i.e the XT ,the XR and the BMW 80 , but most of them were crap and should be left on the pile :deal:
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 04:09:09 pm »
There was a pic of a 1200 BMW in an R80GS type of guise that looked  :drif: If that had to come I would buy 1 no problem :thumleft:
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 04:10:32 pm »
some companies never even moved away from the old classics...
think KLR,  DR...
 

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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 04:13:09 pm »
I believe the reason why the "new" chopper came out with a grip shift as opposed to the uber cool stick shift was that Raleigh were worried about 8-11 year old boys being instantly castrated when they invariably hit a wall.....  
Would not have gone down well in good 'ol US of A

I was never allowed a chopper  :(

Also remember that they were bloody unstable and often remember kids having to be untangled from the wreckage.

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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 04:23:21 pm »
I believe the reason why the "new" chopper came out with a grip shift as opposed to the uber cool stick shift was that Raleigh were worried about 8-11 year old boys being instantly castrated when they invariably hit a wall.....  


 :imaposer: Ain't that the truth, yet most of us that rode them have managed to father children  ;D
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 04:26:33 pm »
I think the coolness of things retro, nostalgic and/or old school is that is plays more on our emotional side than the practical side.
Yes there are bikes like the XT500, R80 etc etc which not only were and still are good, solid, reliable and well build machines for their day, but 20-30 years down the line , still are.
Totally Over Engineered.
Many other things are like that too, I remember we and and a lot of other families had the same type of TV (telefunken wooden panels) ,Vacuum cleaners (Hoovers with that Knight Rider front light) Front blade lawnmowers (probably a Rolux or something ) etc etc.

Unlike today's disposable society there was not that many choices back then , so the things that were out there were generally really build to last.
I collected many old retro stuff and still have things like the original chopper, viewmasters, Atari consoles etc , but with growing up and having kids I always thought that they would find it awesome to have someday. ::).....We'll chances are pretty good they might not really give a rats ass for dad's old stuff.....needless to say I don't really anymore (anybody want 300 VHS tapes with brand new VCR? ;D) , but my heart and mind still melt when I see things that reminds me of a simpler time. (aka- childhood, without bills, taxes and responsibility  :biggrin:)

In this day and age there are just tooo many things that circulate in the market and most aren't worth the packaging they come in after a couple of months.
All things electronic for example aren't worth shit within the first couple of weeks, when the new model gets released.
Even TV series ,doesn't have the same flavour - I used (still am ) a hge A-Team fan, and have the first series, and boy o boy, is pretty bad, same for old Macgyvers , buck rodgers etc........don't get me wrong they are all classics, but you don't get that same feeling watching them these days..?? Why , probably cause we are not 8 years old anymore.
(Although I Must admit the chick from buck rodgers still makes me tingle......maybe it's the big lazer guns)

Retro bikes? Whats the point-
Triumph scrambler - cool , but not near as cool as when Macqueen was on it.
Ape hanger handle harleys.......unless its Fonda & Hopper riding them , they suck.
Vespa's ...........if you really wanna buy retro looking scooter for 50K , be my guest.

................come to think of it, why the hell do I still ride and R80G/S?  :imaposer:
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 04:30:44 pm »
some companies never even moved away from the old classics...
think KLR,  DR...
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 04:40:38 pm »
Go to Google images and search for "oberdan bezzi"
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 04:40:55 pm »
Who said 'Old thumpers are the new black'? A very wise man.  :thumleft:

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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 05:04:44 pm »
The new BMW R1200R classic with the spoke wheels does it for me  :thumleft:
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 05:06:29 pm »
Are we talking actual old bikes or new "retro" bikes?
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2011, 05:10:06 pm »
Defnief, ek hou baie meer van die Old School bikes! 
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2011, 05:10:20 pm »
Progress is too rapid for a retro to be anything else but a thoroughly modern bike with styling cues to the older bike.
 

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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2011, 05:14:54 pm »
So then is the question do you prefer a Xt500 over a XT660 for example?
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2011, 06:44:20 pm »
So then is the question do you prefer a Xt500 over a XT660 for example?
I prefer an XT600 over both :evil6:
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 06:53:11 pm »
Are we talking actual old bikes or new "retro" bikes?
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 07:14:28 pm »
XT500's , XL500's , they were the source of wet dreams years back , and I remember that they were great , but that was then and time stands still for no one , and compared to the modern generation bikes those old ones are not all that great .
But having said that there are a few older bikes that I wouldn't mind owning , and of course there is that other favourite of mine , although not all that old , the Triumph Thruxton , I had the pleasure of having use of one for a few months and I loved it , one of these will definitely be added to my collection sometime in the future .
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2011, 09:15:44 pm »
It unfortunately depends on your age. If your first experience hasn't been on an old bike (CB1100RC, XL500, XL250, R80, and older), then you won't get the same kick. Like your first sex, it may be very good later, but that first time will always be special. Or, as in my case I suppose, reliving it is almost as good..................or as close as you'll get!

But I still think that many old bikes have more to offer than the modern technologically "advanced" bikes. I've only ridden the F650GS and KLE500 recently, but the '80 XL500S is a lot closer to giving me the biking experience I enjoy. I found both overweight and therefore unsuitable for offroad use. On tar and reasonable gravel roads, a modern road bike would run rings around them (I can, for the moment, only think of a CB600).
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Re: "Old School" & Retro Bikes
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2011, 09:35:41 pm »
I love the old bikes and I'm not even going to try and explain why. Its just a thing.
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